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Old Wed Jan 22, 2014, 12:42pm
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Freshman boys. Less than a minute left in the game, home up by 30. V shooting free throws, hits the second, H1 passes to H2 who shoots at the wrong basket and makes, I believe done on purpose. V1 takes the ball, immediately throws it to V2 who scores. That did not look right, so I blow my whistle and had to think about what just happened. I realize that it should have been H's ball underneath after they scored, so I wave off the last basket and I go up to the table and let them know what I have. As I was explaining it, the official waiting for the JV comes up behind the table yelling NO NO NO saying V34 gets the basket. I don't think he realize I was just disallowing the last shot.

So my questions are;
1. Am I correct in disallowing the second shot? and
2. WTF?
So White scores the second free throw. Blue takes the ball out and throws the ball through whites basket. At this point, you should have stopped the game and awarded the basket to white. Not sure why you would ever think Blue did this on purpose but moving on, Blue gets the throw in. However, that doesn't happen.

Instead, white takes it out and white scores. Now at this point is where you actually stopped the game and get everyone pointed the right way.

Am I reading this right? If so, sounds like complete confusion. This is exactly why we do lower level games, so we can see the crazy plays that we don't see at the higher levels, often.
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Old Wed Jan 22, 2014, 12:53pm
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...As I was explaining it, the official waiting for the JV comes up behind the table yelling NO NO NO saying V34 gets the basket. ...

Me: "Thank you for being a fan of freshman basketball."
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Old Thu Jan 23, 2014, 12:29am
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Freshman boys. Less than a minute left in the game, home up by 30. V shooting free throws, hits the second, H1 passes to H2 who shoots at the wrong basket and makes, I believe done on purpose. V1 takes the ball, immediately throws it to V2 who scores. That did not look right, so I blow my whistle and had to think about what just happened. I realize that it should have been H's ball underneath after they scored, so I wave off the last basket and I go up to the table and let them know what I have. As I was explaining it, the official waiting for the JV comes up behind the table yelling NO NO NO saying V34 gets the basket. I don't think he realize I was just disallowing the last shot.

So my questions are;
1. Am I correct in disallowing the second shot? and
2. WTF?
Is it possible he wasn't interfering with you, but the table? Sounds like he's fixing the previous basket (made by H in V's basket). Not the bucket you're about to wave off. The table may have awarded two points to H2, because he scored. You may not even had been aware that the table screwed that up. And, they may have been discussing it or asked him? I would bet the table got confused about what to do when H scored in the wrong basket and he was telling them "Give them to V. Player #34."

Don't think his comments have to do with you and nothing to do with the bucket you're about to wave off. I think he saw their mistake (whereas, you couldn't possibly have seen, of course).
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Old Thu Jan 23, 2014, 08:40am
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Is it possible he wasn't interfering with you, but the table? Sounds like he's fixing the previous basket (made by H in V's basket). Not the bucket you're about to wave off. The table may have awarded two points to H2, because he scored. You may not even had been aware that the table screwed that up. And, they may have been discussing it or asked him? I would bet the table got confused about what to do when H scored in the wrong basket and he was telling them "Give them to V. Player #34."

Don't think his comments have to do with you and nothing to do with the bucket you're about to wave off. I think he saw their mistake (whereas, you couldn't possibly have seen, of course).
This was a big gym with the bleachers on top of locker rooms and offices. There was 30 feet from the sideline to the wall and they were sitting along the wall behind the far end of the bench, so I don't see how he would have seen that mistake. But he was talking to me and the table, and right or wrong, he should not interfere with our game, it was our game to screw up or not. And if I needed something cleared up, I would not go to non-officiating officials, again it is our game to crew up or not. I would ask after the game ( or halftime if they are there) their opinion to see if I got it right, but not during a game. This is an official in our association, so I am bring this up to our trainers.
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