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jeremy341a Thu Jan 16, 2014 02:10pm

Is this a travel?
 
video can be found here.


36:53 into video, comment on initial play and spin.

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ballgame99 Thu Jan 16, 2014 02:50pm

I do not see it as a travel. He doesn't clearly end the dribble until his right foot is on the floor, and then he pivots on the right foot, and jumps off both.

AremRed Thu Jan 16, 2014 03:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ballgame99 (Post 918667)
I do not see it as a travel. He doesn't clearly end the dribble until his right foot is on the floor, and then he pivots on the right foot, and jumps off both.

Travel on the catch. Nothing on the spin.

Raymond Thu Jan 16, 2014 03:19pm

On catch is hard to see if he has control of the ball, so best to go with nothing.

On spin move, that is the travel jar complains never gets called at the college level.

ballgame99 Thu Jan 16, 2014 03:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 918680)
On catch is hard to see if he has control of the ball, so best to go with nothing.

On spin move, that is the travel jar complains never gets called at the college level.

No, I think this one is the one that should be called in college (first highlight).

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Terrapins Fan Thu Jan 16, 2014 04:17pm

I agree Ballgame 99

AremRed Thu Jan 16, 2014 05:11pm

something something athletic move something something game interruptor something something fewer assignments something something play on :D

JRutledge Thu Jan 16, 2014 08:12pm

It looks like a travel to me. Then again, does this make the NCAA the NCAE?

Peace

maroonx Thu Jan 16, 2014 08:38pm

Dribble ends. Left foot pivot foot. Ball is still in hand when he lands left foot.

I have issues with not calling it because it puts defense at disadvantage. Dribbler violates and then could get fouled by the defense.

Scooby Fri Jan 17, 2014 02:42am

I had nothing when I watched it live. When I slowed it down and watched 3 times I though that he might have gained possession after the first bobble and there might be a travel there, but I still did not have a travel on the spin move.

Overall, in live action I am calling nothing because I am not sure of a violation.

jeremy341a Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:24am

I was the C and live I though he bobbled the catch so I passed on that. Then on the spin I thought perhaps the right foot was down before he controlled the ball so I passed on that as well. With travels I like to be positive before I call them.

#olderthanilook Fri Jan 17, 2014 01:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremy341a (Post 918811)
I was the C and live I though he bobbled the catch so I passed on that. Then on the spin I thought perhaps the right foot was down before he controlled the ball so I passed on that as well. With travels I like to be positive before I call them.

This.

From the camera angle, the status of the ball inconclusive. IMO, the C is too high to be able to see the status of the ball, as well. Working lower may have increased the odds of him getting a better look into the play. Or, stepping down on the dribble drive to the baseline, at the very least.

Another talking point - do you have a block or no call on the contact between jump shooter and defender on the previous possession?

Camron Rust Fri Jan 17, 2014 01:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook (Post 918828)
This.

From the camera angle, the status of the ball inconclusive. IMO, the C is too high to be able to see the status of the ball, as well. Working lower may have increased the odds of him getting a better look into the play. Or, stepping down on the dribble drive to the baseline, at the very least.

Another talking point - do you have a block or no call on the contact between jump shooter and defender on the previous possession?

Agree. Original video...can't tell the status of the ball.

On the previous possession's shot, nothing.


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