Auburn-Mississippi Long Distance (video)
 

Thoughts?

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How did the lead official see that? I'm not saying it was or wasn't a foul, but as the lead official I don't think I've ever been looking at the player shooting a three-pointer (unless it's taken from the corner on my side). I mean, that is WAY out of his primary.

The Lead saw it because he had nothing in front of him and a possibility of the ball coming to him. No competitive match-ups around him too. I think it was a good call, but not what you would normally see.

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In this specific case, the Lead does not have a competitive match-up in his PCA. Thus he expanded helped with the players on the wing. Freeze the video 7 seconds into it. Where would you be looking as Lead? Either on the wing or near the FT line as that is where the closest players are. Now throw in a little awareness of your partners: C is in a great spot and can certainly see the guys in the FT semicircle, but the T stops near the division line and has a poor angle for the shot attempt. So it is clear which partner needs secondary help. Finally, notice the game situation: time & score dictate that a quick basket is needed and alerts us that the trailing team may well go for 3 shortly after getting into the frontcourt. The Lead was ready for that, the Trail wasn't.
While unusual, the Lead did a fantastic job on this play and helped the crew. Clear whack on the right arm of the shooter. Not sure if the C could spot this from his angle across the court.

Thoughts?......That is a foul 100 times out of 100 and MUST be called.

Four players in an "action area" require two sets of eyes. Since Lead had no competitive match ups in his area, he expanded to this action area and got the call right (and he "sold it" so everyone knew what he had).

"Stay in your primary" doesn't mean "put a solid wood fence aroound your primary and never look beyond it"

I agree that the play needed a whistle. The L made the call, and he did a good job of selling it.

Did I notice that the T just prior to the release of the shot doing his impersonation of the famous Hightower pose?

That's why it is called Primary coverage area and not Exclusive coverage area.

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Agree. The word primary might infer that there is a secondary, tertiary, and maybe even a quaternary, coverage area.

My quaternary coverage area, and thus, way down on my list of important coverage areas, usually involves either the concession stand, or hot single moms in the bleachers.

Point taken... thanks.

If you watch the trail official - he starts to signal a 3 pt attempt but quickly drops his arm...to me this means that he recognizes that lead has the play. And from leads body language, to me he picked up the play as soon as it crossed half court and never released the play to trail. It may be unusual to see L have to come this far out of his pca to pick up a secondary match up but in my opinion this is a great call and he did a good job of making sure everyone knew what he had.

I'm not sure why the trail decided to stop 2 steps across the division line.

This type of hyperbole diminishes the credibility of anything that might be worthwhile in the rest of your post.

I would say it applies more to this situation than the other play (block/charge JetMet put up) that occurred in the first few minutes of the game.

Here we have a foul in the last 20 seconds, that if not called, really hurts the team that is down and still has a chance to tie up the game.

I've been focusing recently on ignoring contact that is incidental to a blocked shot. In this play it looks like the player blocks the shot (gets hand level up to the ball), can someone explain why the resulting contact is not incidental?

I think so too.

Hmmm... perhaps you don't know what that phrase refers to then. It's not inaccurate here - and not even remotely used as hyperbole.

IMO it is not incidental because the path the defender took to get the block results in him going into an air born shooter. Without being able to take the path, that leads to the contact post block, I don't feel he can block it.

I also feel like contact after a block should be a foul as the thought of knowing you are susceptible to contact after you release the shot does make it more difficult to focus on your shot.

I'd venture he just put the hand down because the shot was blocked and he judged it to be legal..

And nothing from this clip tells me this is a definite foul. It appears to me there is contact with the hand either right before the release or just after the release (and in fact, it looks like he gets contact with the ball before all of that). Afterward, the shooter fails his arms in an attempt to draw the foul.

I know what a crew saving call is. This play does not fit into the definition. I would be willing to bet that if you asked the T and C about this play, they as others on this forum have said, would say the shot was blocked cleanly and the contact afterwards was incidental or exaggerated by the shooter trying to fool an official into making a call. In fact, I would also be willing to bet that if you polled a group of D1 men's officials, you would find a pretty even split amongst those calling this a foul and those letting it go as incidental, and that a majority of those who think it is a foul would not come and get this from the L because they would not feel they have a clear enough look to come that far on a call.

You could be correct, but the way he starts to go up with the 3 pt attempt and quickly drops it, looks more to me like he recognized L had gone up with the attempt. He's in a horrible position to make this call either way.

I agree there was probably some acting by the shooter, but I do see contact below the wrist after contact with the ball. I think it's a good call.

You can say that you disagree with this being a "crew saving" call, but just because someone has it as such a call doesn't make it hyperbole. Saying it is hyperbole just detracts from whatever other points you were making. ;)

And -- if it was correct, it was a crew saver, imo. Can't tell from the video (at least on my screen).

This was a similar type of play/situation from Game 1 of the Western Conference semifinal game that happened on May 5th last year. Scott Foster was the lead official making the call.

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Scott Foster is never wrong.

Similar in that the lead came a long way to make the call. Not so similar in that in this play, the shot was not blocked, and it is clearly a foul.