Video Request: Auburn-Missouri - Last play of the game

[Nevadaref]

Sad to see the official give up on the play like that.
When the right foot touches the floor it is simultaneously both traveling and an OOB violation. There is 0.7 on the clock at this point.

I have a charge on the 2nd play. If that's going to be a blocking foul by rule, then defenders have no reasonable amount of protection anymore and coaches will be teaching their players to run everyone over.

[twocentsworth]

The official was too close to the sideline play to see the travel and the out-of-bounds violation.

As for the block/charge play, that's an easy block under the revised NCAA-M rules this year. The official HAS to get this correct (especially w/1:05 left on the clock).

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Sad to see the official give up on the play like that.
When the right foot touches the floor it is simultaneously both traveling and an OOB violation. There is 0.7 on the clock at this point.

I have a charge on the 2nd play. If that's going to be a blocking foul by rule, then defenders have no reasonable amount of protection anymore and coaches will be teaching their players to run everyone over.

They already are, and on the other side, you see many players just getting out of the way and giving the easy lay-up. I think that's part of what the NCAA wants.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Under the new NCAA block/charge parameters, that was a block.

Under HS rules, that was a charge.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

When the right foot touches the floor it is simultaneously both traveling and an OOB violation. There is 0.7 on the clock at this point.

I agree.

[#olderthanilook]

I was watching the game, and as it ended was asking myself why the other two officials didn't come together to talk about the play to make sure they got it right. Instead, they all just ran off the court.

Not sure if there is any NCAA protocol for a situation like that. Apparently, there isn't.

Any of you NCAA guys have further input?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

I was watching the game, and as it ended was asking myself why the other two officials didn't come together to talk about the play to make sure they got it right. Instead, they all just ran off the court.

Not sure if there is any NCAA protocol for a situation like that. Apparently, there isn't.

Any of you NCAA guys have further input?

It's not a monitor review item (I don't think), and neither of the other officials would have a look at the line.

On the travel, you (as one of the other officials) need to decide if you had a good enough look at it and if it was a "crew saving" call. If so, then make it. don't get together after the fact to try to correct it.

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

It's not a monitor review item (I don't think), and neither of the other officials would have a look at the line.

On the travel, you (as one of the other officials) need to decide if you had a good enough look at it and if it was a "crew saving" call. If so, then make it. don't get together after the fact to try to correct it.

Is this a situation that the SEC assignor will review with the official(s)? I hate seeing any official make mistakes that could result in harsh reprimand and/or consequences. But, that mismanagement of the game was a pretty big deal. I'm somewhat surprised the Auburn coach hasn't made a big deal about not getting an opportunity for another inbound play that would give his team another chance to tie or win the game.

[ballgame99]

I just remembered another play in this game I needed some help on. In the second half a Mizzou player is fouled on the shot, it is the defender's 5th. The defender apparently said something to, or bumped into an official (never showed any replay or got clarification) and got a T. Missouri shoots two shots, then shoots two technicals, then Auburn inbounds. I was very confused. What circumstances would result in Auburn getting the ball back after a T has been called?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

I just remembered another play in this game I needed some help on. In the second half a Mizzou player is fouled on the shot, it is the defender's 5th. The defender apparently said something to, or bumped into an official (never showed any replay or got clarification) and got a T. Missouri shoots two shots, then shoots two technicals, then Auburn inbounds. I was very confused. What circumstances would result in Auburn getting the ball back after a T has been called?

NCAA rules are different than NFHS rules for a subset of technical fouls.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

I just remembered another play in this game I needed some help on. In the second half a Mizzou player is fouled on the shot, it is the defender's 5th. The defender apparently said something to, or bumped into an official (never showed any replay or got clarification) and got a T. Missouri shoots two shots, then shoots two technicals, then Auburn inbounds. I was very confused. What circumstances would result in Auburn getting the ball back after a T has been called?

The circumstance you describe would.

NCAA has you shoot the tech first.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

I just remembered another play in this game I needed some help on. In the second half a Mizzou player is fouled on the shot, it is the defender's 5th. The defender apparently said something to, or bumped into an official (never showed any replay or got clarification) and got a T. Missouri shoots two shots, then shoots two technicals, then Auburn inbounds. I was very confused. What circumstances would result in Auburn getting the ball back after a T has been called?

Most technical fouls in NCAA-M are two shots and play resumed at POI, not two shots and the ball to the offended team.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

Is this a situation that the SEC assignor will review with the official(s)? I hate seeing any official make mistakes that could result in harsh reprimand and/or consequences. But, that mismanagement of the game was a pretty big deal. I'm somewhat surprised the Auburn coach hasn't made a big deal about not getting an opportunity for another inbound play that would give his team another chance to tie or win the game.

I don't work the SEC, so I'm only speculating, but -- officials are reviewed after almost every game, and it would not surprise me if they all got a downgrade for this (and maybe lose a game). And, there are procedures for a coach to raise this issue -- and those do NOT include "making a big deal" our of it publically.

Originally Posted by ballgame99

I just remembered another play in this game I needed some help on. In the second half a Mizzou player is fouled on the shot, it is the defender's 5th. The defender apparently said something to, or bumped into an official (never showed any replay or got clarification) and got a T. Missouri shoots two shots, then shoots two technicals, then Auburn inbounds. I was very confused. What circumstances would result in Auburn getting the ball back after a T has been called?

Missouri had the ball, Auburn committed a foul, then committed a T and then Auburn inbounded? That doesn't sound correct.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

I just remembered another play in this game I needed some help on. In the second half a Mizzou player is fouled on the shot, it is the defender's 5th. The defender apparently said something to, or bumped into an official (never showed any replay or got clarification) and got a T. Missouri shoots two shots, then shoots two technicals, then Auburn inbounds. I was very confused. What circumstances would result in Auburn getting the ball back after a T has been called?

Assuming that the Missouri player made the last free throw, then the POI would be Auburn inbounding the ball from the endline. They should have shot the two Technical free throws first, then brought everyone back into the lane spaces and shot the 2 for the personal foul. Play would resume from there.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

I just remembered another play in this game I needed some help on. In the second half a Mizzou player is fouled on the shot, it is the defender's 5th. The defender apparently said something to, or bumped into an official (never showed any replay or got clarification) and got a T. Missouri shoots two shots, then shoots two technicals, then Auburn inbounds. I was very confused. What circumstances would result in Auburn getting the ball back after a T has been called?

What type of throw-in? Anywhere along the endline or designated spot?