Throw In Violation?
 

See this occassionally and it always gets me doubting myself.

Ball is at dispoisal of A1 for a throw in. While passing in the ball, A1 steps on the boundry line but not actually onto the court. Violation?

Why would it be?

The line is out if bounds...so no violation.

If the court was marked with a two-foot wide boundary line would you penalize a thrower for standing on it?

This has been my thinking but after having a few "senior" refs call it the other way I started having doubts. I'll keep doing it the way I was doing it. Thanks.

This is one of those things that is so simple it is possible to never give it a thought. I had a veteran coach bring this up to me. He was talking about a play made by his own team, and thought they had gotten away with something: "On the throw-in, I think my guy stepped on the line." I said: "So what?" After a brief explanation, he appeared embarrassed. "Oh, yeah......DUH."

I'll keep doing it <s>the way I was doing it</s> according to the rules.

Ask those senior refs how they call it when you have a 3 foot wide solid belt around the floor.

As long as no part of the foot is inbounds, then it's nothing.

If part is inbounds and part is out of bounds, then it's a violation, even though the player is still out of bounds.

See 4-9-2 The inside edge of these (boundary) lines define the inbounds and out-of-bounds areas.

Who You Gonna Call ???
 

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A player inbounding the ball may step on, but not over the line. During a designated spot throwin, the player inbounding the ball must keep one foot on or over the three-foot wide designated spot. An inbounding player is allowed to jump or move one or both feet. A player inbounding the ball may move backward as far as the five-second time limit or space allows. If player moves outside the three-foot wide designated spot it is a throwin violation, not traveling. A player inbounding the ball may “dribble” the ball on the out-of-bounds area prior to making a throwin.

The player inbounding the ball is allowed to jump and make a pass, correct?

Jump and make a pass.........jump and fake a pass and come back to the floor...anything is all right as long as nothing touches inbounds.

Second Time Is A Charm ...
 

See above.

As to the question in this thread it's very valid. I've had the same question asked during my BV and GV games at least three times the past two years.

Why would this be a violation?

Do I hear an echo?

How bout if they lose their balance and touch the court with the ball. Violation?

Depends. Inbounds or OOB?

In the Ancient Days, it was a Violation for the Thrower to step on the Boundary Line if the Boundary Line was two inches wide, but not if the Boundary Line was wider. This Violation was legislated out of the Rules between twenty and 25 years ago.

Surprisingly, there are still people who think this is still a Violation.

MTD, Sr.

Its not and I have not called it that way but have worked with some who have so I was curious to see if I was missing something. A post by MTD has explained the origin of this misperception.

Not necessarily. Misperceptions need no excuse. "He stepped on the line so we should get the ball" is a deeply rooted concept which often does not bother with any further details, no matter which line, or from which side.

Misty Water Color Memories ...
 

Thanks Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. I did not know that. I probably didn't know that because I don't know very many basketball officials who are older than me. Don't you just love it when you wake up in the morning and discover that you're still on the right side of the grass, and then you read the morning newspaper and not see your name in the obituaries.

Billy:

That is the first thing I do every morning: I look in the obituaries, and if I do not see my name and picture, I know it is going to be a good day.

Of course, every time I go to the Post Office I do see my picture, :p.

MTD, Sr.