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rawhi1 Mon Jan 06, 2014 01:57pm

Captains meeting Officials positions.
 
Just curious. What are the positions of the three officials during the meeting with team captains at center court? Couldn't find anything in the officials manual.

Adam Mon Jan 06, 2014 02:06pm

R is table side of the players.
U1 and U2 are opposite the table.
All three are facing the players.

bob jenkins Mon Jan 06, 2014 02:08pm

In most places, it doesn't really matter.

Mark Padgett Mon Jan 06, 2014 02:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rawhi1 (Post 917016)
What are the positions of the three officials during the meeting with team captains at center court?

Standing.

SAJ Mon Jan 06, 2014 02:15pm

We have R facing table while U1/U2 are near table looking out towards the court to keep watch on players warming up.

Rich Mon Jan 06, 2014 02:20pm

It varies here.

When I'm the R, I put my back to the table, tableside. That way when I'm done, I only have to turn around and I'm a few steps from the table. U1/U2 merely have to back out to their usual positions.

PG_Ref Mon Jan 06, 2014 02:25pm

NFHS Official's Manual does not say ... IAABO manual, page 101, says R faces table and U1/U2 backs to the table.

Camron Rust Mon Jan 06, 2014 02:32pm

I don't think there is a specified position.

We just stand wherever we end up but with one on each side.

I'm not sure there really needs to be a specified mechanic here for anyone but the most AR.

Bad Zebra Mon Jan 06, 2014 03:30pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAJ (Post 917023)
We have R facing table while U1/U2 are near table looking out towards the court to keep watch on players warming up.

This, spelled out specifically by our state assn.

ronny mulkey Mon Jan 06, 2014 03:43pm

mandatory?
 
Is the captains' meeting mandatory by rule? Can you "verify" the legal, worn properly, sporting behavior in some other manner than the captains' meeting?

Adam Mon Jan 06, 2014 03:47pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronny mulkey (Post 917046)
Is the captains' meeting mandatory by rule? Can you "verify" the legal, worn properly, sporting behavior in some other manner than the captains' meeting?

It's mandatory here. I do not verify legal equipment there, it's quick.

"Take care of your knuckleheads so we don't have to step in.

Have a good game, fellas."

(Or "players" if they're ladies.)

ronny mulkey Mon Jan 06, 2014 04:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 917047)
It's mandatory here. I do not verify legal equipment there, it's quick.

"Take care of your knuckleheads so we don't have to step in.

Have a good game, fellas."

(Or "players" if they're ladies.)

Adam,

We do it around here, too. But, is it mandated by rule (FED)

MD Longhorn Mon Jan 06, 2014 04:03pm

R's position is firmly and staunchly Conservative
U1's position is quarterback.
Us'2 position is lotus.

PG_Ref Mon Jan 06, 2014 04:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronny mulkey (Post 917059)
Adam,

We do it around here, too. But, is it mandated by rule (FED)

Officials manual 3.1.5 A. 8

Conduct the coach/captain conferences at the designated time(s). Verify with the head coach that team members are legally and properly equipped and that all participants are expected to exhibit proper sporting behavior.

Rule 2-4-5
The referee shall:

ART. 5

Verify with the head coach, prior to each contest, that his/her team member's uniforms and equipment are legal and will be worn properly, and that all participants will exhibit proper sporting behavior throughout the contest.

Adam Mon Jan 06, 2014 04:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by PG_Ref (Post 917068)
Officials manual 3.1.5 A. 8

Conduct the coach/captain conferences at the designated time(s). Verify with the head coach that team members are legally and properly equipped and that all participants are expected to exhibit proper sporting behavior.

Rule 2-4-5
The referee shall:

ART. 5

Verify with the head coach, prior to each contest, that his/her team member's uniforms and equipment are legal and will be worn properly, and that all participants will exhibit proper sporting behavior throughout the contest.

Seems the rule requires at least a coach's meeting. Captains meetings are apparently optional (check local listings.)

dsqrddgd909 Mon Jan 06, 2014 04:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronny mulkey (Post 917059)
Adam,

We do it around here, too. But, is it mandated by rule (FED)



From Official's manual:
2.1.5 A.10 "Conduct the coach/captain's conference at the designated times(s). "

It's not specifically in the rule book. (verify with coaches is 2-4-5).

KS and MO require it.
KS: "PRE-GAME CONFERENCE WITH COACHES, PLAYERS & OFFICIALS
Prior to each game starting the officials, coaches and captains are to meet for a pre-game conference."

MO:
"H. Pre-Game Conference: Officials shall conduct a pre-game conference before each contest at center court
which the head coach of both teams (not a representative of the head coach), each team’s captains, and all the
officials much attend to discuss sportsmanship, game procedures, etc."

deecee Mon Jan 06, 2014 05:14pm

I hate the captains meetings. Waste of time. Nothing said here changes anything when the game starts. If I have to hear another partner (3 already this year) remind players that "black" around is OOB I'll gouge my eyes out.

Freddy Mon Jan 06, 2014 05:19pm

Ugh
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deecee (Post 917093)
I hate the captains meetings. Waste of time. Nothing said here changes anything when the game starts. If I have to hear another partner (3 already this year) remind players that "black" around is OOB I'll gouge my eyes out.

"...speaking captains?", anyone? :D

ronny mulkey Mon Jan 06, 2014 05:20pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by deecee (Post 917093)
I hate the captains meetings. Waste of time. Nothing said here changes anything when the game starts. If I have to hear another partner (3 already this year) remind players that "black" around is OOB I'll gouge my eyes out.

DC,

Hate it, too. At one time around here we had gotten away from having them, then the Fed came up with the triple verification mandate. That mandate is the only reason that I'm still doing one. I guess I'm looking for some other method of complying with the triple verification????

grunewar Mon Jan 06, 2014 05:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAJ (Post 917023)
We have R facing table while U1/U2 are near table looking out towards the court to keep watch on players warming up.

I was taught this way too, but, for a different reason - R starts the game from across from the table, so he also faces the table when doing the Captain's Meeting. So, that's how I do it.

Rationale ok? Who knows. :rolleyes:

Adam Mon Jan 06, 2014 06:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronny mulkey (Post 917096)
DC,

Hate it, too. At one time around here we had gotten away from having them, then the Fed came up with the triple verification mandate. That mandate is the only reason that I'm still doing one. I guess I'm looking for some other method of complying with the triple verification????

We do this in the coach's meeting, not the captains. (Our meetings are separate.)

BillyMac Mon Jan 06, 2014 06:50pm

All The Way Around ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 917095)
"...speaking captains?"

What's your number?

Are you starting?

BillyMac Mon Jan 06, 2014 06:52pm

Need A Map ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rawhi1 (Post 917016)
...center court?

Quote:

Originally Posted by PG_Ref (Post 917028)
IAABO manual ...

IAABO doesn't have us at center court, it has us halfway between the jump ball circle, and the table.

rawhi1 Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:01pm

When in Romans do as the Romans do!
 
Thanks. Reason for was that when I was taught the referee faced the table an u1 and u2 were opposite referee with backs toward table. I was U1 the other day and we(u2) were gathering captains and lining them up when referee reversed postions. So I was just look for some reference as to proper positions. Verdict. Do what do however u want or told to do it. Thanks

pfan1981 Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:18pm

"Please lead your team in a positive manner. Players play. Coaches coach. Officials officiate. Good luck." Same for the coaches.

Sharpshooternes Tue Jan 07, 2014 03:02am

Quote:

Originally Posted by deecee (Post 917093)
I hate the captains meetings. Waste of time. Nothing said here changes anything when the game starts. If I have to hear another partner (3 already this year) remind players that "black" around is OOB I'll gouge my eyes out.

We actually HAD to do this in our last game. The paint job was legal but went from a really thick dark green color to the 2 inch black line, then about six of normal court followed by a two inch white line that ran the length of both end lines. The visiting team got confused a time or two and would step over the line, at least according to my P. I never saw a violation and my p never called the one or two that he did.

BillyMac Tue Jan 07, 2014 07:12am

Short And Sweet ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pfan1981 (Post 917146)
"Please lead your team in a positive manner. Players play. Coaches coach. Officials officiate. Good luck." Same for the coaches.

Here's an outline of mine:

Coaches and captains meeting at 5:00: Players properly equipped,
Players wearing uniforms properly, Practice good sportsmanship

shavano Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:40am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 917047)
It's mandatory here. I do not verify legal equipment there, it's quick.

"Take care of your knuckleheads so we don't have to step in.

Have a good game, fellas."

(Or "players" if they're ladies.)

Y'all works... I'm tellin' ya. :D:D


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