Video request Ohio State/Purdue
 

11:20 second half. Block/Charge.

No possible way this is a block.

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Stupid new rule making refs default clear charges to a block. The upward motion in this play doesn't even occur until after contact!!

Charge or nothing.

If anyone has a good explanation for why this is a block, I'd love to read it. I can't see it.

CHARGE!!

MTD, Sr.

The only – and I mean only – thing I can think of is the L saw P #5’s right foot move just before contact and thought P #5 hadn’t obtained LGP before O #10 began his upward shooting motion. Of course, that would mean the L was watching the ball as it came to him as opposed to watching P #5 but that’s all I’ve got.

Not a block in any ruleset in any game.

I've got a block.





JK.

I'm amazed at how many on another forum (FB) are claiming this is a good call.

They aren't JK.

No way is this a block.
These guys had a rough couple of minutes. Right before this OSU player (#3) stole ball then lost it around midcourt. Purdue player started after loose ball and basically was hugged by guard (#3) that had lost the ball to start. Foul called on Purdue player.

Adam's not kidding.

On a rather large Facebook group we're both part of, there is a sizable contingent saying this is a block.

I just can't imagine how. Let's just call this the missed call it is and move on.

This is why it is called judgment. We all do not share the same level of judgment. I think this is clearly a PC foul based on any rules set. But I am not getting paid what the guy was that made this call.

Peace

Doesn't matter what he is getting paid. On this play his judgment was horrible, and I don't see how anyone can defend him.

During the many years I've officiated, I've had many discussions with those who read 4-7-2 b - "If contact occurs on the torso of the defensive player, the dribbler is responsible for the contact." who insert "on the front of the torso" and even more narrowly, "in the center of the front of the torso" into their play-calling on such a block/charge call.
Such narrow interpretation seems to disregard the immediately preceeding sentence stating "If a guard has obtained a legal guarding position, the player with the ball must get his/her head and shoulders past the torso of the defensive player."
This call seems to fit with that perception.
That said, I see this play as unquestionably a charge.

It was just a statement that he is working there and many of us are not, including me. And no I was not defending him. I can't on this play and other plays.

Peace

Is the fb group open for enrollment? If so what is the name? I enjoy reading others opinions on plays.

Send a PM to BktBallRef.

Rut:

None of us is getting paid what he is. LOL!

Happy New Year!

MTD, Sr.

I think you are right on here, Rob...

Some officials HAVE TO BE seeing it this way to call a block on a play like this.

Just because a dribbler happens to run into the SIDE/OR A LITTLE OFF CENTER of a defender who has LGP...and displaces the defender, to the ground in this case...I just don't get it why we have officials, all over the nation, that call this a block.:confused:

If This Happened In My High School Game...
 

Player control foul.

Did you happen to see the FB discussion? Oddly, it's about 50/50 over there. I just don't get it, especially since this is one of the few threads I've ever seen here where there is essentially zero discussion.

There only seems to be two or three people in that thread arguing for a block and none of them seem to understand what LGP actually entails.

If it's the same group I'm a part of, you're right. It's really frustrating to read that thread where one vocal guy is trying to put up an argument that doesn't really make sense.

I recently became a member of that group as well. I commented to this individual that he needs to read 4-22-2 & 4-22-3. I don't believe he has ever actually read that part of the book.

Among the more blatant missed calls I've ever seen.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/basketballrefereegroup/

PM me your name here first. It's an officials only group, so I verify every single member.