No horn when game ended!! Uggg

[BryanV21]

When reading the Officials Manual regarding another situation, I came across this...

In 3.3.6, section E. Final Decision:, it states that "the timer should only be consulted on a last-second tap or try when the red/LED light fails to illuminate or the timer's signal is not heard."

I wouldn't feel right about leaving this call up to the timer, as he/she is sure to have a bias for the home team. Perhaps ask him/her what they saw, but not allow it to directly make the decision.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

When reading the Officials Manual regarding another situation, I came across this...

In 3.3.6, section E. Final Decision:, it states that "the timer should only be consulted on a last-second tap or try when the red/LED light fails to illuminate or the timer's signal is not heard."

I wouldn't feel right about leaving this call up to the timer, as he/she is sure to have a bias for the home team. Perhaps ask him/her what they saw, but not allow it to directly make the decision.

I wouldn't do this within earshot of either coach. Frankly, unless you plan on using this information, I wouldn't ask; as it's only going to inflame the home coach if the timer says it was late.

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

When reading the Officials Manual regarding another situation, I came across this...

In 3.3.6, section E. Final Decision:, it states that "the timer should only be consulted on a last-second tap or try when the red/LED light fails to illuminate or the timer's signal is not heard."

I wouldn't feel right about leaving this call up to the timer, as he/she is sure to have a bias for the home team. Perhaps ask him/her what they saw, but not allow it to directly make the decision.

The key word "consulted" has been expressed to mean "asked for further information", and the Referee is still to make the decision. JMHO

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

When reading the Officials Manual regarding another situation, I came across this...

In 3.3.6, section E. Final Decision:, it states that "the timer should only be consulted on a last-second tap or try when the red/LED light fails to illuminate or the timer's signal is not heard."

I wouldn't feel right about leaving this call up to the timer, as he/she is sure to have a bias for the home team. Perhaps ask him/her what they saw, but not allow it to directly make the decision.

The timer is an extension of the officiating crew, however the R has final say.

Also if the timer is biased, they should not be there being they are an extension of the officiating crew.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chseagle

The timer is an extension of the officiating crew, however the R has final say.

Also if the timer is biased, they should not be there being they are an extension of the officiating crew.

Ideal world and all that.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Adam

Ideal world and all that.

Very true about that

[jritchie]

Thanks for all the comments and suggestions! The Coach from the Home school e'mailed us and apologized for teh incident with the clock and said he has ordered red lights to go on his backboard this morning and a new clock system. Hopefully will be ready for the next game after Christmas!

[BatteryPowered]

I had the horn fail to sound with a made basket one time. Luckily for us the home team was up by 46...so it was a little irrelevant that we counted the basket for the visitors.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by jritchie

Thanks for all the comments and suggestions! The Coach from the Home school e'mailed us and apologized for teh incident with the clock and said he has ordered red lights to go on his backboard this morning and a new clock system. Hopefully will be ready for the next game after Christmas!

And there you have it…

I go along with everyone who mentioned the “definite knowledge” aspect of the play. I also wouldn’t feel quite so bad because it’s the home school that ended up on the short end of the last shot in regulation. They don’t want it to happen again? They can do exactly what they’re doing…fix the clock.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by jritchie

Thanks for all the comments and suggestions! The Coach from the Home school e'mailed us and apologized for teh incident with the clock and said he has ordered red lights to go on his backboard this morning and a new clock system. Hopefully will be ready for the next game after Christmas!

Technically wouldn't the scoreboard/signaling device(s) fall upon the AD, & not the coach?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Technically wouldn't the scoreboard/signaling device(s) fall upon the AD, & not the coach?

Maybe the AD delegated those duties.

[jeremy341a]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Technically wouldn't the scoreboard/signaling device(s) fall upon the AD, & not the coach?

If it is like most of the school around here, the coach and the AD are the same person.

[refiator]

You don't mention ….2 person or 3 person crew? This would be much easier to cal with a 3 person crew. More reason to push for 3-person.

[26 Year Gap]

During my most recent game, my partner had a count and when the clock delayed in starting, he called the end of the period. You can always do a silent count from when the ball is touched inbounds, which when there is that little time left, which would give you definite knowledge.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

You can always do a silent count from when the ball is touched inbounds ...

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