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Old Thu Dec 19, 2013, 02:29pm
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Fire the clock operator. They either failed to turn the auto horn on or turned it off at some point during the game. Tell game management to take them out back and stone them to death.
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Old Thu Dec 19, 2013, 03:54pm
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Fire the clock operator. They either failed to turn the auto horn on or turned it off at some point during the game. Tell game management to take them out back and stone them to death.
I second this idea.
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Old Thu Dec 19, 2013, 03:58pm
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When reading the Officials Manual regarding another situation, I came across this...

In 3.3.6, section E. Final Decision:, it states that "the timer should only be consulted on a last-second tap or try when the red/LED light fails to illuminate or the timer's signal is not heard."

I wouldn't feel right about leaving this call up to the timer, as he/she is sure to have a bias for the home team. Perhaps ask him/her what they saw, but not allow it to directly make the decision.
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Old Thu Dec 19, 2013, 04:01pm
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When reading the Officials Manual regarding another situation, I came across this...

In 3.3.6, section E. Final Decision:, it states that "the timer should only be consulted on a last-second tap or try when the red/LED light fails to illuminate or the timer's signal is not heard."

I wouldn't feel right about leaving this call up to the timer, as he/she is sure to have a bias for the home team. Perhaps ask him/her what they saw, but not allow it to directly make the decision.
I wouldn't do this within earshot of either coach. Frankly, unless you plan on using this information, I wouldn't ask; as it's only going to inflame the home coach if the timer says it was late.
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Old Thu Dec 19, 2013, 04:02pm
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When reading the Officials Manual regarding another situation, I came across this...

In 3.3.6, section E. Final Decision:, it states that "the timer should only be consulted on a last-second tap or try when the red/LED light fails to illuminate or the timer's signal is not heard."

I wouldn't feel right about leaving this call up to the timer, as he/she is sure to have a bias for the home team. Perhaps ask him/her what they saw, but not allow it to directly make the decision.
The key word "consulted" has been expressed to mean "asked for further information", and the Referee is still to make the decision. JMHO
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Old Thu Dec 19, 2013, 04:10pm
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When reading the Officials Manual regarding another situation, I came across this...

In 3.3.6, section E. Final Decision:, it states that "the timer should only be consulted on a last-second tap or try when the red/LED light fails to illuminate or the timer's signal is not heard."

I wouldn't feel right about leaving this call up to the timer, as he/she is sure to have a bias for the home team. Perhaps ask him/her what they saw, but not allow it to directly make the decision.
The timer is an extension of the officiating crew, however the R has final say.

Also if the timer is biased, they should not be there being they are an extension of the officiating crew.
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Old Thu Dec 19, 2013, 04:49pm
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The timer is an extension of the officiating crew, however the R has final say.

Also if the timer is biased, they should not be there being they are an extension of the officiating crew.
Ideal world and all that.
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Old Thu Dec 19, 2013, 05:07pm
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Ideal world and all that.
Very true about that
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Old Fri Dec 20, 2013, 11:00am
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Thanks for all the comments and suggestions! The Coach from the Home school e'mailed us and apologized for teh incident with the clock and said he has ordered red lights to go on his backboard this morning and a new clock system. Hopefully will be ready for the next game after Christmas!
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Old Thu Dec 19, 2013, 03:57pm
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Tell game management to take them out back and stone them to death.
And don't stop until you hear the horn.
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