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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 01:22am
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Anyone have anything at about 1:25 left in 2nd half

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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 01:31am
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I have nothing on the clinching lay up. Might have a foul on the one eyezen is referencing. Need to look at it again, but it's 1:30am.
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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 01:39am
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Anyone have anything at about 1:25 left in 2nd half

North Carolina Holds Off Kentucky - ESPN Video - ESPN
Yes. #11 for UNC pushed the KUlyer to the ground from behind going for the ball.
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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 03:41am
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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 04:49am
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Play #1: For me, no travel. Didn't have the ball, so can't travel.

Play #2: Our angle on the tv was better than the officials. Probably didn't see that hand in the back and needed help from a buddy. But with our angle looks like a foul to me on NC.
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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 09:19am
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Play #1: TC on UNC #11 for an illegal screen. Once I saw that I stopped looking for anything else.

Play #2: I disagree w/BoB’s take. I think the C had a perfect angle to be able to see the push by UNC #11. He was the only official who could’ve made that call and the play was right in front of him.
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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 09:37am
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Play #1: No travel. Screen by UNC11 is marginal.

Play #2: Push in the back foul by UNC11.
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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 09:48am
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Play 1: gains possession with right foot on ground, then puts left on ground, then elevates off 2 feet. No way, no how, a travel.
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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 01:32pm
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Play 1: gains possession with right foot on ground, then puts left on ground, then elevates off 2 feet. No way, no how, a travel.
It's not as bad as I thought at first, but he has the ball in both hands while his left foot is still on the floor.
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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 12:48pm
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Play #1: Screen by UNC11 is marginal.
I’m thinking a little more than marginal. It was set outside UNC #11’s vertical plane with a stance wider than his shoulders and he extended his right hip into the path of the defender.

I’m all for the new and improved guidelines at the NCAAM & NCAAW levels but with all of the changes to make sure offensive players have freedom of movement – not to mention the change in the NCAAM code on drawing PC fouls on airborne shooters – you’ve got to throw the defense a bone. When a defender is doing what (s)he legally needs to do to stay with an offensive player and is impeded like that we need to get it.
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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 02:08pm
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I’m all for the new and improved guidelines at the NCAAM & NCAAW levels but with all of the changes to make sure offensive players have freedom of movement – not to mention the change in the NCAAM code on drawing PC fouls on airborne shooters – you’ve got to throw the defense a bone. When a defender is doing what (s)he legally needs to do to stay with an offensive player and is impeded like that we need to get it.

I agree with this. I still think it was marginal though. I would not call this at that point in the game if it was going to be the first illegal screen call made during the game. At that point I would prefer to get something more obvious. Especially since they did not even inbound the ball to the player that was being guarded by the person who got screened. If it was called that close throughout, then I have no problem with the call.
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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 08:00pm
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Play #1: Nothing if the issue is a travel. Touching proceeds possession. He is touching the ball, but not possessing it in my judgment.

Play#2: I did not see a foul live, but then I saw a foul on slow motion. I think the angle was not good for the official, but not because they were out of position, just a quick play to call in that situation. But I think it should have been called by someone, but I see why it was not called.

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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 10:37am
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Anyone have anything at about 1:25 left in 2nd half

North Carolina Holds Off Kentucky - ESPN Video - ESPN
Anyone have something at the 1:08 mark of the video? Appears the player controls with one foot on the ground, jumps, and starts a dribble. Maybe I'm splitting hairs. What say you?
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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 11:10am
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Play 1: T for hanging on the rim.

Play 2: Foul on blue for a push during the rebound, then a travel on white after obtaining the ball.

OR (and this is tougher because we don't know the post-game evaluation), some or all of what was called was judged to be correct *as "they" want it called* despote some overly technical wording in the book.

Or some combination of the two.
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Old Sun Dec 15, 2013, 11:26am
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Play 1: T for hanging on the rim.

No way. Not even a consideration.
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