Blow whistle to end quarter?
 

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Here's my question: There seems to be an ongoing discussion within my association about whether or not the calling official should sound the whistle when the quarter ends. I was always taught yes, blow it dead and waive it off immediately if it doesn't leave the hand in time (obviously), blow and give the open palm, clock stop signal if it is released in time but misses, and blow and count the basket if the buzzer goes while in the air. I haven't sen anywhere in the rule books or official's manuals where it says you don't have to, but then again, I also haven't seen anything that specifically says to do it.

So what do you all do? I get the argument that the horn is already signaling the end of the quarter, but what do coaches always tell their players? "Play till the whistle!" Let me know what you think!

The horn doesn't always end the quarter.

We always whistle. This will be a regional thing.

whistle.

I also whistle. It has been suggested to me that it is not necessary, but it seems to be an instinct to me to do it, so I keep doing it.

Is there NCAA guidance on this issue?

I like what you have been taught.

First of all, welcome to the board, but...Nope. Ya won't find it 'cause it's not there. The Fed sees fit to address arm compression sleeves, uniform logos, undergarment color...where ya stand during time outs...but not what to do at the most critical point of a close game. It really would be simple...either yes or no. But for as long as I have been officiating, it's been debated and there seems to be no consistency whatsoever from one association to another, and in some cases one crew to another. Kinda curious.

From the NCAAW mechanics manual:

YMMV, but you're always safer in blowing the whistle to end the period...

Ha, man, it really would be such a simple thing to include just for the sake of consistency. Oh well, I'll continue to blow it dead until I'm told otherwise...

I think a whistle should come every time from the calling or last second shot official. Not so much a regional thing as I feel this just makes it clear the quarter/half has ended.

Peace

Yes, at least in NCAAW.

Blow the whistle when the period ends. If the shot is not released in time, then blow the whistle immediately. If the shot is released in time then blow the whistle when the try is either made or missed (so a few seconds after the horn).

Required in FIBA.

Not so for our IAABO/NFHS games here. Only if needed for clarification.

Welcome aboard!

It would make sense to blow the whistle because…what do coaches tell their players? “Play the whistle.” They hear a horn they might stop what they’re doing. They hear a whistle, they stop.

Add this to the fact that – apart from continuous motion situations – the whistle causes the ball to become dead and it’s a good idea.

In Ohio we are NOT to blow the whistle for a normal ending of a quarter/game.

Separated At Birth ???
 

Same thing here in my little corner of Connecticut. We only sound the whistle if something odd happens at the end of the period, and the whistle is needed for clarification.

Interesting, I'm curious to know what that justification would be, and I guess what I'm really wondering is what is the NEGATIVE of blowing the whistle? I can't think of any, but please share if you've heard one.

I know I've worked in enough loud gyms that there are times in a close game where its hard to hear the horn by itself, which to me is another reason to blow it dead, make your whistle preventative rather than reactive.

Book 'Em, Danno ...
 

The only justification that I can give, and it's not a good one, is that, as far as I know, it's (sounding whistle to end the period) not in the mechanics manual. Maybe it's no longer the case, but back when we were using NFHS mechanics, here in 100% IAABO Connecticut, it wasn't in the NFHS mechanics manual, and I believe that it's not in the present IAABO mechanics manual either. Remember, Connecticut is The Land Of Steady Habits. We do things by the book here in Connecticut. JRutledge would probably accuse us of being "robot like". Guilty as charged. Compared to the rest of the country, we're a bunch of odd ducks here in New England. How often do you guys stop, and ask directions, from a farmer, to an assignment, and are told, "You can't get there from here".

Tying my shoes isn't in the manual and I still manage to do it before every game.

Let's Get Those Manuals Updated ...
 

Thus:


The powers that be must just assume that officials wear black loafers, or black Velcro shoes.

Wearing a black belt is in the IAABO manual, so it's easy for me to manage to wear one during every game.

Had a scrimmage yesterday morning where the main gym was partitioned in half, but the auxiliary scoreboards -- for some reason -- did not have loud buzzers. it was necessary in this case to make sure everyone knew there was 0:00.0 on the clock.

My own observation about my part of Rome is that officials seem to follow the NCAAW guidelines. <abbr title="your mileage may vary">YMMV</abbr>

[QUOTE=Stat-Man;913364]Had a scrimmage yesterday morning where the main gym was partitioned in half, but the auxiliary scoreboards -- for some reason -- did not have loud buzzers. it was necessary in this case to make sure everyone knew there was 0:00.0 on the clock.

This or if it is absolutely certain the horn should have sounded but didn't.
1-14 says the Red/LED light or Audible Signal shall indicate that time has expired for a quarter or extra period. As Rich said, this doesn't always mean the quarter is over. The absence of a whistle (as we have we have been instructed) communicates nothing has occurred just prior to the horn and so the quarter is now over. Sounding the whistle, on the other hand, communicates something HAS occurred just prior to the horn and so the quarter may not yet be over.

Put me in the camp of always blowing the whistle to signal the end of the period.

Sounding the whistle doesn't necessarily mean that something has occurred, for example, blowing to start a quarter, or to get teams out of a timeout huddle on occasion, but I actually see your point in this case. Let me ask this question to all, what do you do when an inexperienced score keeper randomly blows the horn at the wrong time? Personally, if I think it has ANY impact on the game, I blow it dead, and we go POI. However, if it happens in the backcourt and the offensive player is still dribbling, I routinely see guys say out loud, "Play On!" or something. My point is this, in those situations, the horn isn't signaling the end of the quarter, or for that matter, even signaling the ball to become dead. The whistle just seems like a more consistent method, because it always stops play (yeah, yeah, I know, continuous motion, blah blah blah!!) But even in the case of continuous motion the players still know to stop.

[QUOTE=billyu2;913393]Nope. Not in my world.