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Jumpshooter40 Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:08am

Inadvertent Time-Out
 
This happened in my son's rec league game last night:

Team A and Team B are tied with less than one minute remaining, with Team A in possession of the ball. All of the sudden, one official sounds his whistle and signals time-out to Team A. The Team A captain says he wasn't calling time-out, but was verbalizing to his players to 'come out' and that he didn't call a time-out and does not want a time out.

The official was set to just call it an inadvertent whistle and inbound at POI, but now Team B wants a time-out. Should this be granted.

In addition, are substitutions allowed during an inadvertent whistle?

Adam Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:17am

The ball is dead, it doesn't matter how it got dead.

Timeout and subs are allowed.

jTheUmp Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:41am

And when A's coach complains, the simplest response is something along the lines of "'Time out' and 'come out' sound almost identical in a loud/echoy gym, coach".

A coach around these parts likes to run a play he calls "side out"... an he yells the plays to his players from the bench... arrrrrgh.

Jumpshooter40 Mon Dec 02, 2013 11:54am

Inadvertent Time-Out
 
Just so I understand correctly, Team A is not charged with a time-out. Team B is allowed to take a time-out. All subs are allowed to enter.

bob jenkins Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:24pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jumpshooter40 (Post 912521)
Just so I understand correctly, Team A is not charged with a time-out. Team B is allowed to take a time-out. All subs are allowed to enter.

Yes.

Note that in the last minute of an NCAA game, there are slightly different rules about subs.

Raymond Mon Dec 02, 2013 01:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 912528)
Yes.

Note that in the last minute of an NCAA game, there are slightly different rules about subs.

In NCAA-W subs would not be allowed unless there were a time-out taken, correct?

deecee Mon Dec 02, 2013 01:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jTheUmp (Post 912520)
And when A's coach complains, the simplest response is something along the lines of "'Time out' and 'come out' sound almost identical in a loud/echoy gym, coach".

A coach around these parts likes to run a play he calls "side out"... an he yells the plays to his players from the bench... arrrrrgh.

That's why you should make it a habit of looking over for visual confirmation.

BillyMac Mon Dec 02, 2013 06:46pm

Side Out ...
 
5.8.3 SITUATION E: A1 is dribbling the ball in his/her backcourt when: (a) the
Team B head coach requests and is erroneously granted a time-out by an official;
or (b) the Team A head coach is yelling “side out” offensive instructions to his/her
team and the official stops play believing the coach requested a time-out. RULING:
In (a), Team B is entitled to use the time-out since it was requested and
granted; once granted it cannot be revoked and is charged to Team B. All privileges
and rights permitted during a charged time-out are available to both teams.
Play will resume with a Team A throw-in nearest to where play was stopped. In
(b), an inadvertent whistle has occurred. Team A was not requesting a time-out,
and therefore, should not be granted or charged with one. Play is resumed at the
point of interruption. (4-36-1; 4-36-2a)


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