Vid request-Uconn BC First half 1:55 (Clip Added)

[JRutledge]

I do not have anything on the defender for sure. I probably do not have a PC foul either at any level either. The extended arm does not appear to be the reason their is separation, it looks like the momentum of the players is what caused the separation, not an illegal action. Play on IMO.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I do not have anything on the defender for sure. I probably do not have a PC foul either at any level either. The extended arm does not appear to be the reason their is separation, it looks like the momentum of the players is what caused the separation, not an illegal action. Play on IMO.

Peace

His momentum was towards the C and the shove sent him towards the endline. :/

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Sometimes I wonder if you actually watch these videos before commenting on them. His momentum was towards the C and the shove sent him towards the endline. :/

I can see you have never seen a player extend their arm and not be the reason a player was separated from contact. And this did not seem like the movement of the defender was caused by the arm extension. And someone that does football, I see this kind of movement all the time with a receiver and secondary player going after a pass. I am not convinced that this was all based on the arm, but based off on the fact the ball handler stopped his momentum and moved in another direction and then as expected a defender moving backwards is not going to just stop on a dime. I guess you call a foul every single time an arm is extended by a dribbler too.

Peace

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I do not have anything on the defender for sure. I probably do not have a PC foul either at any level either. The extended arm does not appear to be the reason their is separation, it looks like the momentum of the players is what caused the separation, not an illegal action. Play on IMO.

Peace

Let's see...the defender is moving toward the far sideline. Dribbler sticks forearm in defenders stomach and shoves him, changing defenders direction to toward the endline.

But there is no illegal contact there??? That shove did not cause the separation???

Good grief.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Let's see...the defender is moving toward the far sideline. Dribbler sticks forearm in defenders stomach and shoves him, changing defenders direction to toward the endline.

But there is no illegal contact there??? That shove did not cause the separation???

Good grief.

Well let us see. The official on the game called a foul on the defender, not the offensive player. So whatever he saw, he clearly did not think it was a foul on the action with the arm. Now that is debatable as to why this play was asked for. And when I saw the play live, I felt nothing should have been called. Sorry, that you do not see the plays like this I see all the time. And even with the new directives I still see no foul. There is contact in basketball. And there is certainly contact in men's or boy's basketball.

Peace

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Well let us see. The official on the game called a foul on the defender, not the offensive player. So whatever he saw, he clearly did not think it was a foul on the action with the arm. Now that is debatable as to why this play was asked for. And when I saw the play live, I felt nothing should have been called. Sorry, that you do not see the plays like this I see all the time. And even with the new directives I still see no foul. There is contact in basketball. And there is certainly contact in men's or boy's basketball.

Peace

You all just don't have the experience and perspective that JRut has.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by zm1283

You all just don't have the experience and perspective that JRut has.

If you have not seen that play many times in different forms, then NO YOU DO NOT have the experience. That is why we get paid the big bucks.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If you have not seen that play many times in different forms, then NO YOU DO NOT have the experience. That is why we get paid the big bucks.

Peace

And yet you still get it wrong. Being confident about your mistakes doesn't make them correct.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

And yet you still get it wrong.

Oh, based on whom? You? Since when did I work a single game for you?

Thanks for that laugh on that one.

Peace

[BryanV21]

The defender was moving sideways, but suddenly fell backwards. Looks like a PC foul to me.

Personally, I think defenders are too often to blame for contact.