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Old Tue Nov 19, 2013, 11:22am
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I am saying calling the defender for a block just because he didn't have LGP would be a weak call.
If you don't call a block on a defender who does not have LGP, then whom do you call a block on?
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Old Tue Nov 19, 2013, 11:24am
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If you don't call a block on a defender who does not have LGP, then whom do you call a block on?
That isn't what he said.
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Old Tue Nov 19, 2013, 11:35am
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No matter what call was made in this case somebody would be upset, and have reason to be. It is that close.

What isn't "close" is the taunting. You have to nip that in the bud in order to prevent possible retaliation later. Whether it's late in the game or not, a fight can break out any time.
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Old Tue Nov 19, 2013, 12:05pm
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I am not so sure about the taunting. There is emotion in the game and if I dunk on someone and that guy is under you, what else do you expect him to do? He is going to look at him. I can see why that was not called in that situation.

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Old Tue Nov 19, 2013, 12:09pm
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I am not so sure about the taunting. There is emotion in the game and if I dunk on someone and that guy is under you, what else do you expect him to do? He is going to look at him. I can see why that was not called in that situation.

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I'm not sure what this guy's face looked like, but his teammate had no reason to do the same, though.

On that note, though, looking down at a guy after the play is one thing, but making a face that is clearly meant as "LOL... you got poster-ized" is another. I mean, it would be no surprise if it ticked off the defender, and his teammates, and thus ended up in some type of altercation.
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Old Wed Nov 20, 2013, 02:33am
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I'm not sure what this guy's face looked like, but his teammate had no reason to do the same, though.

On that note, though, looking down at a guy after the play is one thing, but making a face that is clearly meant as "LOL... you got poster-ized" is another. I mean, it would be no surprise if it ticked off the defender, and his teammates, and thus ended up in some type of altercation.
As I said, emotion is apart of the game. Looking down at someone is not in itself is not taunting. Saying something to the opponent or making an unnecessary movment towards an opponent I could see. This to me looks like a player dunked on a player and had him under him. I expect him to look at him at some point. This does not look unusual or unexpected. But that is why they call it judgment.

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Old Wed Nov 20, 2013, 11:03am
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As I said, emotion is apart of the game. Looking down at someone is not in itself is not taunting. Saying something to the opponent or making an unnecessary movment towards an opponent I could see. This to me looks like a player dunked on a player and had him under him. I expect him to look at him at some point. This does not look unusual or unexpected. But that is why they call it judgment.

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Yeah, I agree. Which is why I'm not saying anything for certain regarding the shooter. I would have had to be in position to see his face to determine his intent by looking. I'm more thinking about the shooter's teammate who looked down at the defender.

In all, I'd have to be there to hear/see exactly what happened. This video alone doesn't prove if a tech should have been given out or not.
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Old Wed Nov 20, 2013, 08:25pm
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After watching the clip three times, I don't care if it was YSU doing the dunking: That play is a CHARGE! This is a classic example of an illness that has been permeating in high school and college for at least fifteen years of going with the WOW! factor rather than officiating the play.

That is my two cents from a curmudgeonly bald old geezer.

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Old Thu Nov 21, 2013, 11:35am
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If you don't call a block on a defender who does not have LGP, then whom do you call a block on?
5 defenders on the court did not have LGP. Not having LGP by itself is not a foul.
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