Logo On Jersey
A6 enters the game with (a) two mfg logos on the jersey or (b) one logo that is over-sized.
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When one of my Soldiers is not in the correct uniform I make them push along with there team leader/squad leader. So the coach along with the offenders owe me 50!:D
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A -- Technical FOul on the Head Coach B -- Technical Foul on the Head Coach Rule 3-4-2statea that Logos/Flags/patches shall adhere to the following: a. A Visible manufactureer's logo/trademark/reference is permitted on the team jersey not to exceed 2 1/4 square inches with no dimension more than 2 1/4 inches. The manufacturer's logo may be located nor more than 5 inches below the shoulder seam on the from of the jersey, or 2 inches from the neckline on the back of the jersey; or in either side insert. 10-5-4 -- The head coach shall not permit a team member to participate while wearing an illegal uniform. So it's a direct T on the HC. He loses coaching box privileges. |
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Are we assuming this is the only guy with the illegal unifom? Or did he get the T to start the game because everyone was illegal? |
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I agree with the two who have responded.
But, see 3.6.1, subpart (c) |
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I'm not doing anything. I could absolutely care less about the logo. This nit I will never pick.
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I do not have my book. Can someone please post the case play?
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3.6.1 A6 enters the game with an excessive manufacturer's or school's logo on his/her (a) socks, (b) wristbands or (c) jersey. Ruling Legal in (a). In (b) and (c). A6 may not participate and is directed to return to the bench until legall equipped. COMMENT The restrictions on visible manufacturer's or school's logo size is in effect on jerseys, pants/skirts, compression shorts, wristbands and headbands. The shoes and socks are not considered part of the uniform for purpose of visible logo size.
I would think that if one uniform is illegal they all would be. Do you forfeit the game? |
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Opposites Attract ???
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With the exception of a casebook plays that may have became out of date, that may not have kept up with rule changes due to an oversight by the editor, I'm going with the casebook interpretation almost every time. |
Clarification!!!
NOTE: THE "CLARIFICATION" IS BEING CLARIFIED!!!
From Peter Webb, IAABO Coordinator of Interpreters & Trainers: "By rule, player A-6 simply can not participate/play while wearing excessive logos on jersey (3.5). Just as a player A-5 with a jersey not tucked into pants (3.3.5), can not participate/play and is directed to leave the game. THERE IS NO PENALTY - simply not allowed entry or directed to return to the bench. Until the excessive logos are removed or the jersey is worn properly, the team member can not return as a player. Technical Foul would be the penalty for 3.2.2 c, d, e, & 10.1.2 Penalty Technical Foul would be the penalty for illegal number 3.4 d The Technical Foul penalty regarding uniforms primarily has to do with numbers and prior to the game. Additionally, a player wearing an illegal number is charged with a Technical Foul, but can play while wearing the number. A team member with excessive logos or over sized logos on jersey can not play. I hope the above response is of help. I will make a note to bring the matter to the attention of the NFHS Rules Editor next spring. Some editing might help the clarity." |
The bit about a player being charged with a technical foul for an illegal number is wrong...it's a direct to the coach...just like any other infraction for an illegal jersey (save for this recent interpretation).
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I'm sorry, but Peter Webb is just plain wrong.
The NFHS rulebook indicates that the penalty for illegal jersey and pants, as well as numbers, is a technical foul charged to the head coach. See 10-5-4 and the related penalty as well as the Technical Foul Summary after Rule 10. The rule he cited has to do with illegal items such as undershirts, compression shorts/sleeves, etc. but not the uniform jersey or shorts. A player wearing one of those non-uniform items that is not legal may not play with them. But that rule does not extend to the uniform items. Our state interpreter has spoken on the matter previously too. In fact, they changed this rule just 2-3 years ago to be only 1 T for any number of infractions and also changed it to apply to the head coach an not just the team. They covered it in the rule change discussions at the time. If you were not going to let a player participate with an illegal uniform, why would you charge the T at all? |
Illegal Uniforms ...
This (below) is from a draft of an article that I was preparing to write a few years ago on Administrative Infraction Technical Foul Penalties. Of course, I can't be used as a source citation, but I did put several hours of research into the article.
Technical fouls for illegal uniforms (including illegal numbers) are not charged to the team, but are charged directly to the head coach. If a team member participates as a player while wearing an illegal uniform, then a direct technical foul is charged to the head coach, who will lose the coaching box privilege for the remainder of the game. This infraction is penalized when discovered, and the team member with the illegal uniform may participate without further penalty and is not required to change the number. A maximum of one technical foul shall be charged directly to the head coach regardless of the number of offenders. Note that I said "preparing". I never published it, mostly because of some IAABO interpretation problems, like the issue that we are discussing here in this Forum thread. 10-5-4: The head coach shall not permit a team member to participate while wearing an illegal uniform (see 3-4). PENALTY: (Section 5) Two free throws plus ball for division-line throw-in. The foul is charged directly to the head coach. (Art. 4) Penalized when discovered. (Arts. 4, 5) Only one technical foul is charged regardless of the number of offenders. 10.5.4 SITUATION B: Team A is wearing jerseys that have a visible manufacturer’s logo above the neckline. Team B’s coach informs the official of the logos just as the ball is about to be inbounded to begin the second quarter. RULING: Illegal jerseys. A technical foul is charged directly to Team A’s head coach when the infraction is discovered. Team B is awarded two free throws followed by a division-line throw-in opposite the table. Team A’s head coach has lost his/her coaching-box privileges for the remainder of the game in states utilizing the optional coaching box. (3-4-2a) |
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If the school provides it (jersey, pants), then it's a T to the coach. If the student provides it (undergarments, adornments, shoes, socks), then just don't play with it. Besides, in the play mentioned, the chance of only one jersey being wrong is very low. So, we're not going to let any of the kids play? Sweet! That makes for a short night. |
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