Loose Ball: Foul or Not

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

For an NBA game I can see not calling the foul but if you don't call the foul, call the travel.

For NCAA/HS, call the foul.

Why the difference?

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

No foul.

Why no foul?

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Why the difference?

Mainly because it's the NBA. I wouldn't be against a call but a no-call isn't a shock.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Why the difference?Why no foul?

Incidental contact. Esp. article 2.

NFHS. I would call a foul on this play. If I had the endline angle and the play coming toward me I would call an intentional foul based on 4-19-3a, "Contact that neutralizes an opponent's obvious advantageous position", and 4-19-3d, "Excessive contact with an opponent while playing the ball".

Blake may appear to be ahead of Lin in the race to the ball, but Lin still has an obvious advantageous position to try to secure the ball. Instead of Blake going directly for the ball, he initiates contact into Lin prior to playing the ball, to have an uncontested chance at securing the ball.

[APG]

Originally Posted by AremRed

NFHS. I would call a foul on this play. If I had the endline angle and the play coming toward me I would call an intentional foul based on 4-19-3a, "Contact that neutralizes an opponent's obvious advantageous position", and 4-19-3d, "Excessive contact with an opponent while playing the ball".

Blake may appear to be ahead of Lin in the race to the ball, but Lin still has an obvious advantageous position to try to secure the ball. Instead of Blake going directly for the ball, he initiates contact into Lin prior to playing the ball, to have an uncontested chance at securing the ball.

I can see one calling a foul on this play (though I'd have a no-call as well). But I don't think this even comes close to being an intentional foul. This is no where close to an obvious advantageous position for Lin...they're basically stride for stride for the final portion of the play.. I also think it's a huge stretch to consider this excessive contact.

[Adam]

I've got a foul, as throwing your shoulder into the opponent is the opposite of incidental, IMO.

But I'd have a real hard time justifying an intentional.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by AremRed

NFHS. I would call a foul on this play. If I had the endline angle and the play coming toward me I would call an intentional foul based on 4-19-3a, "Contact that neutralizes an opponent's obvious advantageous position", and 4-19-3d, "Excessive contact with an opponent while playing the ball".

Calling an intentional foul in this play falls into the category of “looking for trouble.” Trouble can find us on the court on a good day. Don’t try to find it on your own. Intentionals/F1s and Flagrants/F2s will usually call themselves.

[Raymond]

If I saw the play from the camera's angle I would. On the court I don't think any official was in position to see it.