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Old Thu Nov 07, 2013, 03:56pm
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Other than a good exercise in definitions and enforcement, I agree with Jeff. This would be the definition of a sasquatch.
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Old Thu Nov 07, 2013, 04:51pm
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Other than a good exercise in definitions and enforcement, I agree with Jeff. This would be the definition of a sasquatch.
It's a question on this year's IAABO test, that's why I bring it up. The idea of counting the basket if it went in seemed strange.
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Old Thu Nov 07, 2013, 05:22pm
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It's a question on this year's IAABO test, that's why I bring it up. The idea of counting the basket if it went in seemed strange.
Interesting. I should probably get started on that.
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Old Thu Nov 07, 2013, 05:26pm
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Jet Man gave us the appropriate Casebook Play/Approved Rulings (CP/AR) for boys'/girls' H.S. and women's college. The ruling for NCAA Men's would be the same.

While we can debate the probabilities of an IPF or FPF being committed by a Shooter let us look at this play at a slightly different angle to see why the CP/ARs are what they are.

We can divide Personal Fouls (PF) into three categories:
(1) IPF;
(2) FPF;
(3) all other PFs.

Category (3) can be subdivided into:
(a) Common Fouls (CF);
(b) fouls committed against a Player Trying or Tapping for a Field Goal (FG);
(c) not a IF, FF, part of a Double Foul (DF) or a Multiple Foul (MF).

We also know that by definition a Player Control Foul (PCF) is a CF.

How can we approach A1's IPF? Look to the definition of Continuous Motion. Think of A1's IPF as happening away from the ball. Did the Foul occur whilte the ball was in A1's hand(s) (See two-hand set shot, Red Klotz, and the Washington Generals, but I digress.) or had A1 released the ball for his Try, and proceed from there.

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It's a question on this year's IAABO test, that's why I bring it up. The idea of counting the basket if it went in seemed strange.
I got it wrong too.

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It's a question on this year's IAABO test, that's why I bring it up. The idea of counting the basket if it went in seemed strange.
We must get a different IAABO test in Missouri. I don't remember any such question. I will recheck
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