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AremRed Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:45am

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Originally Posted by potato (Post 909459)
If a player ends his dribble by catching the ball with 1 foot on his floor (left foot)

That's the pivot foot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by potato (Post 909459)
and does a tiny hop on that foot

Unless he is a wizard, this hop has caused him to pick up his pivot foot.

Quote:

Originally Posted by potato (Post 909459)
lands on the same foot instead of the other

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 909470)
Travel.


bob jenkins Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:01am

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 909479)
That's the pivot foot.

Not yet it's not. That's potato's point. The rest (hop) is covered despite the questions he keeps raising.

APG Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:52am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 909479)
That's the pivot foot.



Unless he is a wizard, this hop has caused him to pick up his pivot foot.

You can't determine if there's a pivot foot from at this point. The player's subsequent actions will determine whether or not there's a pivot foot.

potato Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:39pm

the pass discussion only talks about both feet needing to land together, it's not a travel if the player lands on his right foot only, but what if the player hops off his left foot & lands on the left foot only?

APG Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:50pm

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Originally Posted by potato (Post 909541)
the pass discussion only talks about both feet needing to land together, it's not a travel if the player lands on his right foot only, but what if the player hops off his left foot & lands on the left foot only?

NCAA/NFHS/and I think FIBA as well:

Catch or end a dribble with:

One one foot:

-If the player steps with the other foot, then the first is the pivot foot

OR

-If the player jumps off that one foot, they MUST land on both feet simultaneously, and MAY NOT pivot

Both feet in the air:

-If he lands on both feet simultaneously, he may pivot with either foot.

OR

-If he lands on one foot, then it'll be the pivot foot, IF the player steps with his other foot

OR

If he lands one one foot, he may jump off that foot. If he does so, he MUST land simultaneously. He will NOT HAVE A PIVOT.

Not sure how to make this any simpler. Ask yourself this in your scenarios. When was the dribble end or the ball caught. Then ask yourself if the player had a foot on the floor or he caught the ball in the air. After that, ask yourself if the player landed simultaneously if stated. That should answer any of your questions.

bob jenkins Fri Nov 01, 2013 07:52am

Quote:

Originally Posted by potato (Post 909541)
the pass discussion only talks about both feet needing to land together, it's not a travel if the player lands on his right foot only, but what if the player hops off his left foot & lands on the left foot only?

travel. As I said before.

In addition to APG's information, there's also a case to the effect that "even if a pivot foot hasn't been established, it's a violation to jump and land" I think that case deals with catching a ball with both feet on the ground, but the principle applies.

now, please stop it.

Adam Fri Nov 01, 2013 08:03am

Great advice, bob.


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