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PG_Ref Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:09am

What's going on in Kentucky?
 
From a recent article on the internet ...

"Kentucky bans postgame handshakes

"While the KHSAA is announcing the ban, it is not administering its enforcement at the time the games end. Rather, opposing teams can still choose to have postgame handshakes but if a fight breaks out, it's not on the KHSAA; it's on the coaches and the officials, if they choose to stay." In fact, the statement posted in the largest, boldest font is this one:


They are going to try to hold officials responsible if a fight breaks out during postgame handshakes ... wow! Sounds like there may an increase in legal actions against officials in Kentucky, if this is accurate.

APG Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:14am

Here's the article:

http://khsaa.org/10082013-commission...game-activity/

I'm guessing they mean school officials rather than the game officials.

Bad Zebra Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:26am

Quote:

Originally Posted by PG_Ref (Post 907096)
From a recent article on the internet ...

"Kentucky bans postgame handshakes

"While the KHSAA is announcing the ban, it is not administering its enforcement at the time the games end. Rather, opposing teams can still choose to have postgame handshakes but if a fight breaks out, it's not on the KHSAA; it's on the coaches and the officials, if they choose to stay." In fact, the statement posted in the largest, boldest font is this one:


They are going to try to hold officials responsible if a fight breaks out during postgame handshakes ... wow! Sounds like there may an increase in legal actions against officials in Kentucky, if this is accurate.

This is a perfect example of why certain people should be banned from reading ANYTHING on the internet. In reading the statement IN ITS ENTIRETY...the exact opposite is true. The article AND the commissioner clearly state that game officials do not, nor have they ever, had juridiction over these activities.

How does somebody take that conclusion away from the KHSAA statement??? :rolleyes:

Now Massachusetts is a whole different matter.

Bad Zebra Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by j51969 (Post 907099)

Headline of this article is misleading as well...and from CBS! Amazing. I'm guessing the KHSAA commissioner is probably slamming his head into the wall out of frustration.

Camron Rust Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra (Post 907100)
Headline of this article is misleading as well...and from CBS! Amazing. I'm guessing the KHSAA commissioner is probably slamming his head into the wall out of frustration.

Not uncommon with a lot of mainstream media. Headlines (and even the article's contents) are meant to push agendas or draw attention (to increase ad revenue), not convey entirely accurate information.

JRutledge Wed Oct 09, 2013 02:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra (Post 907100)
Headline of this article is misleading as well...and from CBS! Amazing. I'm guessing the KHSAA commissioner is probably slamming his head into the wall out of frustration.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 907103)
Not uncommon with a lot of mainstream media. Headlines (and even the article's contents) are meant to push agendas or draw attention (to increase ad revenue), not convey entirely accurate information.

It is Wednesday literally and figuratively.

Peace

Raymond Wed Oct 09, 2013 02:40pm

from article:

Unfortunately, the adrenaline and effort required to participate in the sport sometimes seems to deplete the supply of judgement available to participants. And this can be particularly problematic when there is a lack of an appropriate level of adult supervision, or counterproductive actions by the adults involved with the team. After consultation with the Board of Control at its last meeting, the Commissioner is issuing the following directives to officials and recommendations to the schools and officials regarding post game in baseball, basketball, football, soccer, softball, volleyball and wrestling:

Following the contests, officials are to quickly and efficiently leave the playing facility following all rules mandated duties and ensure that the rules book mandated jurisdiction ends promptly. There is no need for officials to secure the game balls, shake hands with the coaches or players, or stick around the playing area for any other reason.
Officials have no role in what goes on in postgame, including handshakes, etc. after jurisdiction has ended. Officials also have NO role in administering this policy. Officials choosing to involve themselves in postgame activities will be penalized appropriately;

Adam Wed Oct 09, 2013 03:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 907117)
from article:


Following the contests, officials are to quickly and efficiently leave the playing facility following all rules mandated duties and ensure that the rules book mandated jurisdiction ends promptly. There is no need for officials to secure the game balls, shake hands with the coaches or players, or stick around the playing area for any other reason.
Officials have no role in what goes on in postgame, including handshakes, etc. after jurisdiction has ended. Officials also have NO role in administering this policy. Officials choosing to involve themselves in postgame activities will be penalized appropriately;

Makes far more sense than that nonsense in MA.

Raymond Wed Oct 09, 2013 05:09pm

I love that they tell officials not to retrieve the game ball. Still have guys I work with who will go out of their way to chase down the ball. :mad:

BillyMac Wed Oct 09, 2013 05:25pm

Education Is the Key To Success ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 907130)
Still have guys I work with who will go out of their way to chase down the ball.

I hope that you set them straight.

grunewar Wed Oct 09, 2013 07:01pm

The story was also on the NBC Evening News w/ Brian Williams.......I thought of you guys and knew it would be a discussion topic here. How sad is that?

BktBallRef Wed Oct 09, 2013 07:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by PG_Ref (Post 907096)
From a recent article on the internet ...

"Kentucky bans postgame handshakes

"While the KHSAA is announcing the ban, it is not administering its enforcement at the time the games end. Rather, opposing teams can still choose to have postgame handshakes but if a fight breaks out, it's not on the KHSAA; it's on the coaches and the officials, if they choose to stay." In fact, the statement posted in the largest, boldest font is this one:


They are going to try to hold officials responsible if a fight breaks out during postgame handshakes ... wow! Sounds like there may an increase in legal actions against officials in Kentucky, if this is accurate.

"Following the contests, officials are to quickly and efficiently leave the playing facility following all rules mandated duties and ensure that the rules book mandated jurisdiction ends promptly. There is no need for officials to secure the game balls, shake hands with the coaches or players, or stick around the playing area for any other reason.

Officials have no role in what goes on in postgame, including handshakes, etc. after jurisdiction has ended. Officials also have NO role in administering this policy. Officials choosing to involve themselves in postgame activities will be penalized appropriately;"

Raymond Wed Oct 09, 2013 07:08pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 907134)
I hope that you set them straight.

Guys who have worked longer than I, so not my place.

BktBallRef Wed Oct 09, 2013 07:16pm

My pregame includes, "Do not chase the ball. We can't play without the ball. Someone will get the ball. When the game is over, we don't need the ball."

Raymond Wed Oct 09, 2013 08:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 907137)
"Following the contests, officials are to quickly and efficiently leave the playing facility following all rules mandated duties and ensure that the rules book mandated jurisdiction ends promptly. There is no need for officials to secure the game balls, shake hands with the coaches or players, or stick around the playing area for any other reason.

Officials have no role in what goes on in postgame, including handshakes, etc. after jurisdiction has ended. Officials also have NO role in administering this policy. Officials choosing to involve themselves in postgame activities will be penalized appropriately;"

That quote looks familiar. :cool:


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