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Scratch85 Mon Oct 07, 2013 08:48pm

Long Switch
 
I hope this is not a duplicate thread but I just found out about the new NFHS directive to switch long going to the backcourt.

In my State, we get books every other year. I get the rule book and case book on off years but pass on the Officials Manual until the State issues them.

We had our first Assoc. meeting tonight. Is it correct that the NFHS is now making long switches going "the other way"? Is it just the L and T or will we be making switches from the C also?

I like it. I like most of what the NFHS did this year, which is very little.

Stillblind Mon Oct 07, 2013 09:32pm

Yes C will report the foul and become the new lead. Regardless of whether he is table side or opposite. That will take some time to get use to.

Scratch85 Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:31pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stillblind (Post 906942)
Yes C will report the foul and become the new lead. Regardless of whether he is table side or opposite. That will take some time to get use to.

This is odd to me. The powers in my Assoc. said this was the case but like you said, it will take some getting used to.

Freddy Tue Oct 08, 2013 05:53am

In simplest terms, it seems the following is now apparently the mechanic for dead ball switches:

Calling official always reports, then stays tableside.
Tableside official replaces calling official.

EXCEPTIONS: When C or T call a foul opposite table when it's going the other way (the OOB after which will be administered opposite table), then C or T, reports the foul, stays opposite, and becomes the new L.

Corrections to this analysis welcomed.

BillyMac Tue Oct 08, 2013 06:09am

Same Topic ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scratch85 (Post 906940)
I hope this is not a duplicate thread ...

http://forum.officiating.com/basketb...tml#post904463

BktBallRef Tue Oct 08, 2013 08:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scratch85 (Post 906940)
In my State, we get books every other year. I get the rule book and case book on off years but pass on the Officials Manual until the State issues them.

The Officials Manual is only published in odd numbered years. When did you last get one?

BktBallRef Tue Oct 08, 2013 08:21pm

Sure would be nice if they'd make up their damn mind. :D

It's always made since to me to go tableside, report and stay at the C or become the new L if the ball is table side. But hey, nobody asked me.

Scratch85 Wed Oct 09, 2013 09:13am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 907038)
The Officials Manual is only published in odd numbered years. When did you last get one?

My most recent Official's Manual is the 2011-13 publication. Of course, we did not get it until the 12-13 season. We did not get the new ones published this year but we will get it next year.

bob jenkins Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 906955)
In simplest terms, it seems the following is now apparently the mechanic for dead ball switches:

Calling official always reports, then stays tableside.
Tableside official replaces calling official.

EXCEPTIONS: When C or T call a foul opposite table when it's going the other way (the OOB after which will be administered opposite table), then C or T, reports the foul, stays opposite, and becomes the new L.

Corrections to this analysis welcomed.

I think this is easier (but maybe it's just me):

If L calls a foul "going long", then L reports and continues down the court table side.

If C or T calls a foul "going long" then they return to their side (Old L will move to administer the TI, so old C or T might be new T or C, depending on the side).

RonA Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:10pm

What about a reverse in direction?
 
I agree this is going to take getting some time to adjust, but my question about this deals with the change in direction. i.e., what if we are on offense then there is a foul (typically a rebounding or team control) that causes a change in direction? Will there be a switch in that case or will we just slide down as before?

bob jenkins Mon Oct 14, 2013 01:04pm

Here, at least as I understand it, if the L calls the foul, the L will report and stay tableside.

The L is the L until there's a change in possession; at that point the L becomes the T.

So, if the rebounding foul is before Team B gains possession, then we have the long switch. If it's after Team B gains possession, then the old L is really the new T, and there's no long switch.


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