Whistles needed? (video - 4 plays)
 

Yeah, I know, some are cut and dried but seeing plays never hurt anyone.

By the way, the calls made during the game were:

1. none
2. none
3. offense
4. defense

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1) Foul - Definitely need a foul on this play. Even if he makes the dunk we should probably still have a whistle because this can be a dangerous defensive play.

2) No Foul - This is the only one that is close. Technically an illegal screen but the player makes it through and the end of the quarter kills the play.

3) No Foul - Play on

4) No Foul - Possession Consequence - Ball rebounded opposite direction from clamped players. It is good that the lead was refereeing his rebounding coverage and if a foul is going to be called then he got the right player (black team) who is clamping the white player.

foul
foul
play on
foul on the white player who ended up with the rebound

1. Foul and missed dunk helps make that call.

2. I am leaning towards foul, but it also looks like he jumps through the screen and I am wondering if that was because of the contact or because of the way he choose to jump through.

3. No foul

4. No foul, ball goes away from these players. It might be a GM foul where these players have been an issue or the game is chippy. But normally that is not a foul from me.

Peace

1. Foul
2. I am leaning towards no call since he jumped around the potentially illegal screen and I cannot tell what he clips his back foot on to lose his balance.
3. No call
4. The foul is called on the proper player if there is going to be a foul called. I will assume it was more of a GM play and agree with JR's assessment.

Why?

Pushed the black player underneath and then got the long(ish) rebound.

1. Block
2. Probably an illegal screen
3. Play on
4. Foul on 12 white.

Pretty much agree...on all counts. I'm probably more convinced on #2. I think it is a foul worthy illegal screen....it never hurts to call illegal screens.

I call a lot of them relative to my fellow officials, so I agree with the last statement.

Peace

Just My Two Cents ...
 

Play #3: No possibility of a push ("over the back")? Not even a slight possibility? Not even a half a thought?

Kid simply got out jumped IMO.

Play 1: Foul for the undercut
Play 2: I've got nothing
Play 3: No foul
Play 4: No possession consequence...no foul unless there was some reason in the game to clean up rough play

Slight ???
 

You could be right. Even if he hadn't been pushed a little under the basket by the slight push, he didn't seem to be in a good rebounding position, or a good rebounding stance, before the slight push. He probably wasn't getting that rebound no matter what happened.

Nope.

During the play you might (should) be thinking "hmmm .. this might become something" but when it's over you can just think "good patience; good no call"

Somebody's Got To Do It ...
 

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only official who compliments himself during a game. I seldom get compliments from the crowd, or from the coaches. I wonder why not?

I wouldn't crucify anybody who called a foul on play #3. It would be a great post-game discussion point and learning tool about advantage/disadvantage and verticality, that's all.

#4, 2 players interlock equally, I don't see how one or other is more cupable.

1. I am indifferent for a foul here. I do believe that B had position with his right foot. But the lean and shoulder was likely outside his cylinder against an airborne defender. I'm ok with a no-call here, but I'd lean slightly to a block.

2. Is the potential foul at the double screen up top? From what I can tell, I have nothing. But again, I'm ok with a foul call.

3. Looks like the foul is for white climbing black's back. I don't have a foul on this play. I've got a great effort though.

4. White foul. He initiated the arm lock. Tough for the L to see though. If one waited to see where the ball went, that's a great method for this level of play. At other levels, I say grab the white foul.

#4 for me is a GM situation. On that 50-50 type of play at that point in the game with their athletic ability I’m not sure if I have a whistle but if I do, it’s going against the team that’s up 25.

I'm always going to put a whistle on this. To me it sets a dangerous precedent to let defenders lean into airborne players, especially with above-the-rim play.

Agreed.

I've got a foul on the first one. The second one is a toss up.

The other 2 we are playing on.

Question- in FIBA they want rebounding falls to come from the outside. What are the NCAA and FED philosophies?