Whistles needed? (video - 4 plays)

[APG]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Play #3: No possibility of a push ("over the back")? Not even a slight possibility? Not even a half a thought?

Kid simply got out jumped IMO.

Play 1: Foul for the undercut
Play 2: I've got nothing
Play 3: No foul
Play 4: No possession consequence...no foul unless there was some reason in the game to clean up rough play

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by APG

Kid simply got out jumped.

You could be right. Even if he hadn't been pushed a little under the basket by the slight push, he didn't seem to be in a good rebounding position, or a good rebounding stance, before the slight push. He probably wasn't getting that rebound no matter what happened.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

You could be right. Even if he hadn't been pushed a little under the basket by the slight push, he didn't seem to be in a good rebounding position, or a good rebounding stance, before the slight push. He probably wasn't getting that rebound no matter what happened.

I wouldn't crucify anybody who called a foul on play #3. It would be a great post-game discussion point and learning tool about advantage/disadvantage and verticality, that's all.

#4, 2 players interlock equally, I don't see how one or other is more cupable.

[JugglingReferee]

1. I am indifferent for a foul here. I do believe that B had position with his right foot. But the lean and shoulder was likely outside his cylinder against an airborne defender. I'm ok with a no-call here, but I'd lean slightly to a block.

2. Is the potential foul at the double screen up top? From what I can tell, I have nothing. But again, I'm ok with a foul call.

3. Looks like the foul is for white climbing black's back. I don't have a foul on this play. I've got a great effort though.

4. White foul. He initiated the arm lock. Tough for the L to see though. If one waited to see where the ball went, that's a great method for this level of play. At other levels, I say grab the white foul.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

1. I am indifferent for a foul here. I do believe that B had position with his right foot. But the lean and shoulder was likely outside his cylinder against an airborne defender. I'm ok with a no-call here, but I'd lean slightly to a block.
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I'm always going to put a whistle on this. To me it sets a dangerous precedent to let defenders lean into airborne players, especially with above-the-rim play.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

#4, 2 players interlock equally, I don't see how one or other is more cupable.

#4 for me is a GM situation. On that 50-50 type of play at that point in the game with their athletic ability I’m not sure if I have a whistle but if I do, it’s going against the team that’s up 25.