Birddog shooter on shooting foul?

[rockyroad]

Cannot think of a reason why we would ever "bird dog" the shooter. Just makes no sense and will only lead to lots of confusion.

[rekent]

Thanks all. I am new to my current area and am being forced to go through their new official training session (my previous years don't count/transfer I suppose) and this is one of several head scratchers that they are trying to engrain in their new officials. Was new, and relatively crazy, for me as well.

Never seen such sticklers for directional pointing form either...

[reffish]

You don't happen to be in southest TN?

[rekent]

Originally Posted by reffish

You don't happen to be in southest TN?

Nope.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Cannot think of a reason why we would ever "bird dog" the shooter. Just makes no sense and will only lead to lots of confusion.

I agree that we wouldn't want to "bird dog" the shooter, but sometimes it may be necessary to identify the shooter, in some manner, to your partner. You may not want to be the only person in the gym who knows who the "real" shooter is. Players may be confused, and coaches, at least around these parts, have been known to try some crazy stunts. We don't need any correctable errors, or any hanky panky, in our games when it can be prevented. Having an extra set of eyes knowing who the "real" shooter is can be helpful in a few situations.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Adam

Now that I think about it, I caught myself doing it this way once this year in the season. Then, oddly, I did it again Saturday in a men's rec game.

Like Adam...I have found myself doing this a couple times the past few years.

Example:

Off ball with several players or maybe in the key or on a rebound...A1 pushes B1 in the back. I close in with a whistle and fist, puching through the roof, then say..."You" (pointing to A1) "pushed him!" (pointing to B1)

I don't like the "Sword Point"...but, there I am taking liberties with the mechanics.

I don't know...maybe at the time I have felt I need to show the players I'm watching them both and want to squelsh any thoughts of retaliation by B1.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

Like Adam...I have found myself doing this a couple times the past few years.

Example:

Off ball with several players or maybe in the key or on a rebound...A1 pushes B1 in the back. I close in with a whistle and fist, puching through the roof, then say..."You" (pointing to A1) "pushed him!" (pointing to B1)

I don't like the "Sword Point"...but, there I am taking liberties with the mechanics.

I don't know...maybe at the time I have felt I need to show the players I'm watching them both and want to squelsh any thoughts of retaliation by B1.

Wow, Dan, you went back 18 months to find that one.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I agree that we wouldn't want to "bird dog" the shooter, but sometimes it may be necessary to identify the shooter, in some manner, to your partner. You may not want to be the only person in the gym who knows who the "real" shooter is. Players may be confused, and coaches, at least around these parts, have been known to try some crazy stunts. We don't need any correctable errors, or any hanky panky, in our games when it can be prevented. Having an extra set of eyes knowing who the "real" shooter is can be helpful in a few situations.

Sure. A quick "Partner, 25 blue is our shooter" works great. Or a simple "Shooter is right there" with a quick finger point...but certainly not a bird dog.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

A quick "Partner, 25 blue is our shooter" works great. Or a simple "Shooter is right there" with a quick finger point...

Especially important when going into a time out. Hopefully the shooter before the timeout is the same as the "shooter" after the time out.