Question for the board. In the movie "HOOSIERS", there were 2 calls I'm not sure about. First, can a coach be thrown out of a game without receiving 2 technical fouls? Second, if a fan comes out onto the floor during the game, should you T-up the team that he is rooting for and, if yes, how do you know he really is for that said team. The coach will go crazy saying he has no idea who the person is. Thanks for any replies!

The back then, used-to-be rules vary from today's rules, ya know?

First of all, even though Hoosiers was based on fact, it's still a movie!!! Don't take what you see literally.

As to your questions - under NF rules, a coach (or player or bench personnel) can be ejected on a single technical if the official rules the offense was flagrant.

As to a fan coming down from the stands, you should ask game management to remove him or her. You can issue a bench technical if you feel anyone on the bench incited the behavior.

Don't agree completely with that one,Mark.Incitement by the bench isn't the only criteria used.The usual one used is that the official must positively identify which team's supporters are responsible,have game management warn 'em,and then give a T if that team's supporters persist in whatever they're doing wrong-i.e. noisemakers,throwing things on the floor,etc. The team's bench may not be involved at all. Use with extreme care(if at all)! As in not recommended!:D

Casebook play 2.8.1COMMENT & SITUATION cover it well.

Slightly Off Topic (Hoosiers)
 

Approx 3-4 years ago USA Today asked readers to email them with their all-time favorite sports movies. "Hoosiers" won in a landslide... think I remember that second place had fewer than half as many votes as "Hoosiers." Certainly not a scientific poll, but a real testimonial for a great movie classic.

Just a clarification on this question. I believe in the movie the T was issued after Gene Hackman told the ref "Don't worry about him, he's my assistant coach. I'll take care of it."

The ref said "In that case, Technical foul." He T'd him up because he was an assistant coach, not just a random fan coming on the floor.

I'm paraphrasing the quotes, but I'm pretty sure the paraphrases are accurate.

Re: Slightly Off Topic (Hoosiers)
 

Nah - best sports movie ever was "The Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders Show Their Tight Ends".

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Nah - best sports movie ever was "The Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders Show Their Tight Ends".

[/B][/QUOTE]After they retire,do they become wide receivers?

After they retire,do they become wide receivers? [/B][/QUOTE]

No, that's WHY they retire.

There were also scenes where fans came unto the floor as well.

But no technicals were assessed to fans, just to the Dennis Hopper character.

A great performance too!

So should the ref have given an Oscar inaddition to the T?

So should the ref have given an Oscar in addition to the T?

[/B][/QUOTE]Actually,Juulie,the name of the award is the "Slappy"- short for "The Slappy Dan Golden T of the Year Award".

'Tis named after our own,beloved Dan_Ref,for career achievements.

http://www.officialforum.com/showthr...?threadid=5468

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Aug 5th, 2003 at 05:47 PM]

I still feel quite honored to have been bestowed with the inaugural Slappy :D

I agree but that wasn't the question. He asked about a fan coming onto the floor, which did happen in the movie. If he wishes to clarify, he can but that's what he asked.

Ah yes,the to-scale nude statuette of Dan, in typical pose, with middle finger raised in greeting to the World. I'll bet that it holds a place of honor in your humble abode,Chuck.

Is the middle leg raised also - or can't you tell without a magnifying glass? http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/...smiley-011.gif

Actually,Mark,when Bush first started looking for those "Weapons Of Mass Destruction",the first place that he checked out was Dan's underwear.

OK OK I heard ya now that's enough...

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Actually, I expected that post to come from Juulie! :)

Actually it was the question.

Quote:

Question for the board. In the movie "HOOSIERS", there were 2 calls I'm not sure about. First, can a coach be thrown out of a game without receiving 2 technical fouls? Second, if a fan comes out onto the floor during the game, should you T-up the team that he is rooting for and, if yes, how do you know he really is for that said team. The coach will go crazy saying he has no idea who the person is. Thanks for any replies!

He said there were 2 calls he was questioning. The first was a coach being thrown out after 1 'T'. The second was T'ing up a fan for coming on the floor. It was implied by the first sentence that a 'T' was given in the movie.

That's how I understand the questions, anyway.

OK OK I heard ya now that's enough...

[/B][/QUOTE]Hmmmmph! Last damn time I stand up for you!

In the movie, the officials did permit something that would be illegal by today's rules. (MTDSr will have to tell us if it was legal in the 50s.) I was sure somebody from the board would jump in with this, and somebody did. (Me!)

BSHAUNJEN, care to guess what it is?

I'm going to guess.......

Coach called a time-out?

No, they allowed Hickory to play with 4 players when a sub was available.

Hmmmmph! Last damn time I stand up for you! [/B][/QUOTE]

:p

:p

[/B][/QUOTE]I'm serious! Next time I'll agree with Padgett that you got Chuckelias Disease! So there!
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[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Aug 6th, 2003 at 01:08 PM]

I'm serious! Next time I'll agree with Padgett that you got Chuckelias Disease! So there!
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[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Aug 6th, 2003 at 01:08 PM] [/B][/QUOTE]

Waddyatalkinabout???

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Just a clarification on this question. I believe in the movie the T was issued after Gene Hackman told the ref "Don't worry about him, he's my assistant coach. I'll take care of it."

Viking....

Very good memory! :)

Viking....

Very good memory! :)

Correct, and for the rule references see my post here: http://www.officialforum.com/showthr...9&pagenumber=2