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Old Fri Aug 30, 2013, 03:36pm
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I see nothing wrong with this?
Well I was at the trail, at around half court. Staffers asked me what I was looking at. If the C didn't get I shouldn't have. They told me we should have gotten together as a crew and came up with an inadvertent whistle. I didn't even realize it wasn't mine until we went down the court.
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Old Fri Aug 30, 2013, 03:46pm
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Well I was at the trail, at around half court. Staffers asked me what I was looking at. If the C didn't get I shouldn't have. They told me we should have gotten together as a crew and came up with an inadvertent whistle. I didn't even realize it wasn't mine until we went down the court.
If it's as blatant and obvious as you're making it out to be and you gave the center an opportunity to get it, then I don't see the problem or error in getting this.
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Old Fri Aug 30, 2013, 04:30pm
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If it's as blatant and obvious as you're making it out to be and you gave the center an opportunity to get it, then I don't see the problem or error in getting this.
Me either. If you hadn't gotten it, they probably would've ripped you for not "saving the crew." And yes, some evaluators are like that.
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Well I was at the trail, at around half court. Staffers asked me what I was looking at. If the C didn't get I shouldn't have. They told me we should have gotten together as a crew and came up with an inadvertent whistle. I didn't even realize it wasn't mine until we went down the court.
As I learned recently, there is a lot of "do as I say, not as I do" among camp clinicians. Beware.
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Old Fri Aug 30, 2013, 05:34pm
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If the C didn't get I shouldn't have. They told me we should have gotten together as a crew and came up with an inadvertent whistle.
So, by this reasoning...a crew meeting...followed by a declaration of "inadvertent whistle"..followed by a PLAY ON? All because your partners were asleep? So you pass on the correct call because it's technically the wrong mechanic? What kind of camp was this???
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So, by this reasoning...a crew meeting...followed by a declaration of "inadvertent whistle"..followed by a PLAY ON? All because your partners were asleep? So you pass on the correct call because it's technically the wrong mechanic? What kind of camp was this???
State association sponsored camp.
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Old Sat Aug 31, 2013, 07:36am
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In that context, then I'm not surprised. Some of our state "philosophies" are real head scratchers. Just the same, I disagree with their recommendation...never pass on a correct call just to protect protocol.
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... never pass on a correct call just to protect protocol.
Elephants and ants. Felonies and misdemeanors. Apples and oranges. Wait? I'm being told ... What? Doesn't apply? Elephants and ants. Felonies and misdemeanors
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Well I was at the trail, at around half court. Staffers asked me what I was looking at. If the C didn't get I shouldn't have. They told me we should have gotten together as a crew and came up with an inadvertent whistle. I didn't even realize it wasn't mine until we went down the court.
That's crazy. So an obvious violation gets ignored b/c of mechanics? From what I've been taught in a 3-man crew the trail is responsible for helping the Lead and Slot with obvious fouls/violations.
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That's crazy. So an obvious violation gets ignored b/c of mechanics? From what I've been taught in a 3-man crew the trail is responsible for helping the Lead and Slot with obvious fouls/violations.
It was blatant. A player on the bench from the shooters own team, asked me after the game, what I called. I told him and he said yea, I could see that. They told me the trail should never call a violation because he has no responsibilities on the free throw as far as the lane and shooter are concerned.
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Old Sat Aug 31, 2013, 09:07am
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Well I was at the trail, at around half court. Staffers asked me what I was looking at. If the C didn't get I shouldn't have. They told me we should have gotten together as a crew and came up with an inadvertent whistle. I didn't even realize it wasn't mine until we went down the court.
That's the problem with camps. Staffers are more worried about their damn philosophies than getting the call right!
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