Foul During Free Throw (Fool the Official)

[APG]

Not a common play:

[bob jenkins]

What am I missing?

[rockyroad]

Defensive player in top position grabs offensive players arm and pulls him over causing the lane violation. C couldn't see that, and T was not paying any attention.

[Bad Zebra]

That's actually a pretty funny sequence. Black player was definitely sneaky in causing the whistle...but it looks like white actually violated first by pushing his butt into the black player to start the whole series. Looks like karma to me.

White 30 was trying to be sly during his violation but black player had a better answer.

[JRutledge]

This is an area we just seem to go to sleep on. I am not surprised it was missed and I missed it until I read certain comments.

Peace

[Raymond]

MultipleSports should be along shortly to comment b/c that was his hero, Al Battista, who made the call.

The Trail should have offered some help on this play as he appears to be looking in the direction of those 2 players.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

This is an area we just seem to go to sleep on.

Agreed. I'm trying to increase my concentration here. As soon as you let your guard down and take a play, any play, for granted, that's when the "fit hits the shan."

[Multiple Sports]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

MultipleSports should be along shortly to comment b/c that was his hero, Al Battista, who made the call.

The Trail should have offered some help on this play as he appears to be looking in the direction of those 2 players.

I will comment on the play at a later date, but as to "Al Battista hero comment "......well maybe you are a little jealous on the 757 "

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

I will comment on the play at a later date, but as to "Al Battista hero comment "......well maybe you are a little jealous on the 757 "

I only get bits and pieces of Al, you get the full smorgasbord.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

That's actually a pretty funny sequence. Black player was definitely sneaky in causing the whistle...but it looks like white actually violated first by pushing his butt into the black player to start the whole series. Looks like karma to me.

White 30 was trying to be sly during his violation but black player had a better answer.

I agree. Look at the offensive player's feet. It appears his left foot is on the lane-space mark before the defensive player decides to take him for a drag.

Originally Posted by rockyroad

C couldn't see that, and T was not paying any attention.

It's on the entire crew however those two players are the L's problem until the FT is in the air.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

It's on the entire crew however those two players are the L's problem until the FT is in the air.

Not when the L takes himself out of the play by going as wide as he did. No way he could see all that sneakiness from where he put himself. T was the one who had the best look at those two knuckleheads.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Not when the L takes himself out of the play by going as wide as he did. No way he could see all that sneakiness from where he put himself. T was the one who had the best look at those two knuckleheads.

Okay, I'll modify the statement: According to the manual, L is supposed to be responsible for those two knuckleheads.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

MultipleSports should be along shortly to comment b/c that was his hero, Al Battista, who made the call.

The Trail should have offered some help on this play as he appears to be looking in the direction of those 2 players.

Yes, the T could have helped out, but where was the L in this play. He definitely should have got this play before the C made his call.

That said, BadNews, is that really Al? When was this game played? Al and I are good friends and have known each other for 20 years. There is not better person with regard to the NFHS and NCAA Men's/Women's rules than Al. He can tell you what year a rule was changed and from what to what it was changed and can tell you the Rule, Section, and Article that was changed, all without climbing up into his attic like I have to do.

MTD, Sr.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

.but it looks like white actually violated first by pushing his butt into the black player to start the whole series.

What violation has he committed?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Cameron Rust

What violation has he committed?

A foul is not the same thing as a violation. Basketball Rules 101.