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Travelling Man Sun Jul 28, 2013 05:19pm

"Judgment calls" are what we do...
 
Various rules-making organizations have earnestly endeavored to establish "rules" for basketball play; furthermore, these organizations regularly convened committees and training programs to--dare I say--establish "interpretations" for such rules. We all appreciate and benefit enormously from our "rule books" as they establish validity, reproducibility, and credibility to our officiating profession. Yet, a rule book cannot possibly predict nor legislate all possible scenarios that occur within a competitive hoops game; therefore, we must use our judgment.
For example, when coaches compel their players to "play hard/tough" and their actions/style of play then influences the opposition to "play hard/tough"---which in turn causes officials to use their interpretation and "allow" such a style of aggressive of play because we don't want whistly "ticky tack" fouls.
As an example, last night I reffed a game where the coaches were encouraging a style of aggressive play--like hard defensive hedges on screens, strongly pursuing 50/50 balls, and the such. So, we must use our judgement to enable the "game to be played" instead of whistling every little tap or touch--within the confines of fair play. In short, we must use our judgement.

JRutledge Sun Jul 28, 2013 06:00pm

OK. Is this a question or a statement?

Peace

scrounge Sun Jul 28, 2013 07:01pm

um...amen?

Freddy Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:25pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travelling Man (Post 901005)
Various rules-making organizations have earnestly endeavored to establish "rules" for basketball play; furthermore, these organizations regularly convened committees and training programs to--dare I say--establish "interpretations" for such rules. We all appreciate and benefit enormously from our "rule books" as they establish validity, reproducibility, and credibility to our officiating profession. Yet, a rule book cannot possibly predict nor legislate all possible scenarios that occur within a competitive hoops game; therefore, we must use our judgment.
For example, when coaches compel their players to "play hard/tough" and their actions/style of play then influences the opposition to "play hard/tough"---which in turn causes officials to use their interpretation and "allow" such a style of aggressive of play because we don't want whistly "ticky tack" fouls.
As an example, last night I reffed a game where the coaches were encouraging a style of aggressive play--like hard defensive hedges on screens, strongly pursuing 50/50 balls, and the such. So, we must use our judgement to enable the "game to be played" instead of whistling every little tap or touch--within the confines of fair play. In short, we must use our judgement.

Seems like you invest time putting your post-game thoughts into words. That is an admirable practice. If your purpose for posting it here is to validate those thoughts, I hereby validate those you've expressed as it fit the circumstances that confronted your crew that night.
I, for one, don't mind considering a post like you submitted here, if that's the intended purpose. I suspect lots of stuff that goes into my post-game journal should really be run past someone else, just to make sure I'm on the right track, and so that if I'm on the wrong track, I can redirect my attitude and actions in upcoming games.
Seems that's what this poster was doing, right?
Thanx for sharing. :)

bob jenkins Mon Jul 29, 2013 07:51am

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Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 901037)
Seems that's what this poster was doing, right?
Thanx for sharing. :)

I find it difficult to tell what she was doing, given the language (composition, vocabulary, structure) used.

Raymond Mon Jul 29, 2013 08:01am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 901066)
I find it difficult to tell what he was doing, given the language (composition, vocabulary, structure) used.

I thought "he" is a "she".

bob jenkins Mon Jul 29, 2013 08:29am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 901067)
I thought "he" is a "she".

fixed. thanks.

BillyMac Mon Jul 29, 2013 04:29pm

Your Guess Is As Good As Mine ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 901067)
I thought "he" is a "she".

Travelling Man = Working Mom Referee

Travelling Man Tue Jul 30, 2013 09:47pm

Seems like I need to post a picture of me---so as to remedy confusion--lol.
My screen name = "Travelling Man" because that is what I told a coach who expressed displeasure at a 'travelling violation' I called on his player. His player was unexpectedly double-teamed when he recv'd the inbound pass after a carefully designed play subsequent to a timeout coach called. A1 recv'd the inbound pass, then shuffled his feet--it was a close game (1 pt difference) with 15 secongs left. The coach said "what you called that travelling?!". I replied, "travelling man!" Hence my screen name.
It was the right call obfiously.

Sharpshooternes Wed Jul 31, 2013 05:38am

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Originally Posted by Travelling Man (Post 901250)
Seems like I need to post a picture of me---so as to remedy confusion--lol.
My screen name = "Travelling Man" because that is what I told a coach who expressed displeasure at a 'travelling violation' I called on his player. His player was unexpectedly double-teamed when he recv'd the inbound pass after a carefully designed play subsequent to a timeout coach called. A1 recv'd the inbound pass, then shuffled his feet--it was a close game (1 pt difference) with 15 secongs left. The coach said "what you called that travelling?!". I replied, "travelling man!" Hence my screen name.
It was the right call obfiously.

Since you are so much into words such as sudoriferous and antidisestablishmentarianism, I think the correct punctuation would be "Travelling, Man." You really need a comma. "Travelling man." means 'that male person of society likes to travel, almost as an occupation.' Whereas, "Travelling, Man" means 'hey dude, that was really a travel and I am right and you are wrong.' A comma is exorbitantly needed in this sentence to avoid a plethora of confusion and perhaps a conundrum.

BillyMac Wed Jul 31, 2013 06:16am

Cheerio, Pip Pip, And All That Rot ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Travelling Man (Post 901250)
Travelling Man.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 901281)
I think the correct punctuation would be "Travelling, Man".

My spell check keeps flagging this and wants to change it to "Traveling Man". Travelling Man must be a British-Kansan.

Ricky Nelson wants to spell it another way:

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Travelling Man Wed Jul 31, 2013 06:40pm

@Billymacs: Yes, you are correct. I concede that the correct grammar is "Travelling, Man". You are right; I am wrong.

BillyMac Thu Aug 01, 2013 05:56am

God Save The Queen ...
 
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Originally Posted by Travelling Man (Post 901392)
I concede that the correct grammar is "Travelling, Man". You are right; I am wrong.

Watch your spelling, although it would be 100% correct in the United Kingdom.

Sharpshooternes Thu Aug 01, 2013 06:41am

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Originally Posted by Travelling Man (Post 901392)
@Billymacs: Yes, you are correct. I concede that the correct grammar is "Travelling, Man". You are right; I am wrong.

Why is Billy Mac getting the credit?:)

BLydic Thu Aug 01, 2013 08:32am

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Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 901431)
Why is Billy Mac getting the credit?:)

Didn't you hear, they're related


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