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Call foul on marginal contact 16 76.19%
Wait for illegal contact 5 23.81%
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Old Tue Jun 11, 2013, 02:49pm
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W#12 goes off on the crew, assessed 2 Technical Fouls and ejected.
Can you explain this more? Why did he go off? What did he say? Why was he given more than 1 tech? Anything you know.
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Old Tue Jun 11, 2013, 02:56pm
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Can you explain this more? Why did he go off? What did he say? Why was he given more than 1 tech? Anything you know.
I wasn't there but by reading the OP he went off b/c he felt a foul should have been called 12 seconds earlier to save time.

And it's an Adult Rec League, 2 Tech can come very quickly in those venues.
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Old Tue Jun 11, 2013, 03:33pm
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Can you explain this more? Why did he go off? What did he say? Why was he given more than 1 tech? Anything you know.
Many F-bombs laced in with disrespectful comments directed at the officials. Whack.
AND as he was leaving the floor he turned back and had more to say. Whack, Get out.

No question that the player's behavior earned himself the disqualification.

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I wasn't there but by reading the OP he went off b/c he felt a foul should have been called 12 seconds earlier to save time.

And it's an Adult Rec League, 2 Tech can come very quickly in those venues.
This is accurate.
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Old Tue Jun 11, 2013, 03:50pm
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The team in white was trying to foul to stop the clock. It was fairly obvious as the were all shouting to each other to use this tactic. With the body position of the black team player, my experience tells me that a steal wasn't going to happen.

I think on this play, the marginal contact should of been called as it was obvious that the foul was coming. IF the crew makes this call and puts the guy on the FT for the penalty I don't think W#12 explodes and earns the ejection.

In the end though the "right" team won the game and I didn't have to step between anybody and my friends.

{and I didn't have to write up the Technical Foul report as this league requires for all T's, Unsportsmanlike and Disqualifying fouls ( read FIBA equivalent to FF1 & FF2), that was on the crew}

Thanks everyone for your input.
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Old Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:00pm
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The team in white was trying to foul to stop the clock. It was fairly obvious as the were all shouting to each other to use this tactic.
If I hear a coach or player say this, I am calling the first attempt that makes contact if for no other reason than preventing more severe contact.
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Old Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:39pm
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A few years ago (2006-07) the NFHS published instructions on late game fouling in its Points of Emphasis. Read this thread for a discussion of this topic.

Late Game Fouling

I posted the NFHS language in posts 4 and 34.
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Old Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:44pm
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It is sad to see that according to the results of the poll connected to this thread several officials are not following the desire of the NFHS.


2006-07 POINTS OF EMPHASIS

• Contact – Contact that is not considered a foul early in the game should not be considered a foul late in the game simply because a team "wants" to foul. Conversely, contact that is deemed intentional late in the game should likewise be called intentional early in the game.
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Old Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:43pm
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If I hear a coach or player say this, I am calling the first attempt that makes contact if for no other reason than preventing more severe contact.
If the winning team is just holding the ball and is willing to take the free throws after strategic fouls, then let’s call the foul immediately, so the ballhandler doesn't get hit harder to draw a whistle.
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