Fanboy Thread - game 7
 

In advance of the game ... what do you expect or hope for tonight?

1) I hope the players win or lose the game, with nothing significant for the losing team to biotch about, ref-wise.

2) I hope Lebron loses. I could care less about Indiana winning... just want Team Not 2 Not 3 Not 4 to not ever get 2.

Personally, I'm not a Lebron fan......and would like to see Indaina win. Being a sports fan, I just want it to be a good game. (I won't be watching)

But, can you imagine the TV ratings for a Spurs vs Pacers final? :rolleyes:

Tonight's crew:

Crew Chief: Scott Foster
Referee 1: Mike Callahan
Referee 2: Ken Mauer
Alternate: Tom Washington

I expect a Miami win blowing Indiana out, Lebron with a triple double, and Hibbert will make another offensive slur after the game.

Heidi Klum Is Better Looking Than LeBron James ...
 

Although, to be honest, I've never seen LeBron James wearing lingerie.

Terrible, because everybody will be watching America's Got Talent.

My prediction looking good right now

Now is anyone going to complain that Cole from the Heat was ejected? ;)

Peace

Clinching fist is unsporting behavior NFHS and warrants a T. Did not know it was an ejection in the NBA.

That's a game management, "it's a 26 point game and 2:15 left in the game, so I ain't dealing with y'alls crap" ejection.

I only say that because Cole "Didn't do anything" rants should be going on as it was when Tyler H was T'd up. I am sure Cole said something that was rather inappropriate even if he was responding to what the opponent was doing to him.

Peace

I agree completely.

Peace

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But Cole did nothing. GTHO!!!! :D

Peace

For a second there, Mauer looked like he was auditioning for the lead role in "Saturday Night Fever" :D

Are you honestly comparing Cole squaring off like that to Hansbrough standing up after being knocked down?? If so, good grief.

What I am comparing is that he did not do anything. And this is in the fanboy thread, not the officiating thread, which means that if you listened to any media the claim was that emotion should be apart of the game. But for the record Cole was pushed, not knocked down, but certainly pushed. And he did "nothing" on the level that Tyler H did and Cole was ejected and and Tyler H was given just a T.

Now you tell me why a guy that made no contact what so ever is ejected and a guy that makes a chest bump should be given a complete pass?

Again I was not the one making the claim Tyler H's behavior was acceptable. So I would like an explanation why these situation are so different? Something tells me I am not going not going to get a good answer. ;)

Peace

They were both ejected for what appeared to be not much, except like it was said before, a, "its a f@#$@$ blowout so stop acting like petulant kids and go sit".

Apples to oranges. I always hate garbage time in my games, because more often than not you have to be more alert.

Hansbrough stood up and was then chest bumped by Anderson. He moved less than a half foot from where he stood up. Cole turned around and assumed a fighting pose and was ready to go.

Again, if you think those two things are equal, good grief.

The only thing different, and the only real justification for the call here, is the game situations. Not sure I agree with the call, but I understand it.

Actually, I think Cole did do something that Hansbrough didn't do and that was exchange obscenities with the opponent. If you're a couple of garbage timers and you're gonna be stupid enough to do that with Kenny Maurer standing 5 feet away, you're gonna get tossed. Maurer don't play. Just search him on YouTube.

BTW, Hansbrough did not receive a technical foul as it was rescinded by the league.

I think the officials in each situation handled it perfectly.

I think the LeBron-Muhammad situation was handled perfectly.

I think the Tyler H-Anderson situation was handled perfectly.

And I think the situation last night was handled perfectly.

Each situation officials were right there and I do not expect all officials either to consider everything in the same way. I was just pointing out that we were told that Tyler did nothing but in my opinion helped escalate the situation and stayed in the game and a guy only got ready in a stance and got ejected. I think that is hypocracy when you call for Tyler to not get anything if what happened last night was so over the top. I guess I do not look at officials and expect different officials with different levels of experience with different situations in each confrontation to do the exact same things across the board like robots. That does not happen at any level even at the NBA level. That is really the point. ;)

Peace

This has been pointed out several times (in this thread and in the other) that the NBA rescinded H's Technical...now if they rescind Cole's ejection, then I will conceded that I am wrong on this. If they don't rescind his ejection - thus telling everyone that the two actions were NOT the same - will you be able to concede that you were wrong? ;)

I know what the NBA did, but that does not mean we all agree with those decisions they make after the fact.

And if that happens at other levels, I would not see a single supervisor of mine saying to not T Tyler H in that situation. I can see any official in my experience and who I work for easily be supported for that type of call. Getting knocked down and getting up in someone's face is not an excuse IMO. Actually I could see one of them saying to me, "Did you need to eject Cole?" But if explained what was said or knowing what was said, that opinion could change. And Tyler said something to Anderson, he was not totally innocent.

Peace

Didn't think so...

What else did you expect?

I'm no Hansbrough fan by any stretch of the imagination but he didn't do anything. He just got up. Maybe he braced himself once he realized he was about to be shoved again, but that is about it. He certainly didn't get in anyone's face. Sure, he may have said something but unless we know what he said, you can't assume it was problematic. He may have said "What was that for?" since there was no reason for him to have been chucked to the floor. If those are T'able words, the Rut must never make it to halftime with any players left.

He got up and got in Anderson's face. He did not stay down or go in the other direction. And his mouth was moving, so he was not silent either.

Peace

You say you can't assume what he said was problematic, yet you somehow assume it wasn't. Use a LITTLE bit of common sense here. He was just knocked on his ass. Do you really think he got up and thanked his opponent? Do you REALLY think he simply said, "What was that for?"

This is kind of ridiculous - you say you can't assume, and then you not only make an assumption opposite of what he made, but you further project that assumption onto Rut and assume he would T someone up for saying something innocuous. Sorry ... not KIND OF ridiculous. EXCEEDINGLY ridiculous.

Almost as ridiculous as saying that Hansbrough's and Cole's actions were the same thing.

Almost as ridiculous as saying that Hansbrough got up and got in Anderson's face.

I actually did not say they were the same thing. I more or less asked why they were seen as so different? But to act like their are no similarities is also very silly when both Cole and Hansbrough said something to their opponent after a physical confrontation of some kind. The one guy that made no contact after the fact and was ejected. Yes not the same, just like the push that Anderson did to Hansbrough was not the same as Muhammad's push on James. But one was ejected and the other was not for some reason. But these situations are certainly similar in nature and was asked when the situations took place on this site and other places.

Peace

Agreed... although no one actually said that.

I love people that put words in other people's mouths and then ridicule them for what they didn't say.

You are correct. You did not say they were the same thing. My bad.

You actually said that what Hansbrough did was worse than what Coles did...

And for the peanut gallery...

You are correct also. My bad.

Rutledge said that Hansbrough's actions were worse.

He can't get up? Or say "What was that for?"

???

Not at all. I'm saying that unless you KNOW what he said, you can't penalize him for what he said. If that is assuming, then that standard means that you must T every player who appears to talk at an opponent when you can't hear what they're saying. I really doubt you're proposing that.

Put simply, his mouth moving is fully insufficient to warrant any penalty.

Ah... so you're not saying that WE don't know what he said (which is what I thought you were saying), but the referee on the spot didn't know what he said. OK. If that's true, I agree. However, I assume (there's that word again) that the referee who actually chose to penalize the player did hear what he was penalizing him for.

I think I have a right to my opinion as Cole only exchanged words with the opponent and Hansbrough exchanged words (look at the tape) and came forward to Anderson. Yes, not that far towards Anderson, but he did not back up like Cole did. And I can understand Cole backing up because the guy he was going up against was much bigger then him. Hansbrough is about the same size as Anderson and walking away would not have been a good look. Just ask LBJ as he is being ripped apart for not coming at Muhammad. ;)

Peace

Evidently, that too would be a bad assumption.

Had he actually said something worthy of a T, the league would not have rescinded the technical foul.

He couldn't. He was too busy flopping on his a$$. :D

As I said before. Different officials, different experiences and different games and situations. I have no problem with how the 3 situations were handled and think it is unrealistic that all situations will be done the exact same when the game situations were not the same.

Peace