Indiana Miami: Game 3 elbow

[maroonx]

Suspension. Thats why I dont bother to watch the NBA. Different rules for different players.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by maroonx

Suspension. Thats why I dont bother to watch the NBA. Different rules for different players.

You think they should have suspended him?

For the record, if I see that in a high school game, he's watching the rest of the game.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by maroonx

Suspension. Thats why I dont bother to watch the NBA. Different rules for different players.

In comparison to what play?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by maroonx

Suspension. Thats why I dont bother to watch the NBA. Different rules for different players.

Players in high school games run into each other all the time. I love how HS guys all of a sudden are so strict but never seem to call what they need to in games we see. NBA takes more action against players than any other level.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Players in high school games run into each other all the time. I love how HS guys all of a sudden are so strict but never seem to call what they need to in games we see. NBA takes more action against players than any other level.

Peace

Half the time they do it after the game, with the benefit of video review. Would love that option in high school.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

Half the time they do it after the game, with the benefit of video review. Would love that option in high school.

We would never get that angle for most games. At least the NBA has the money to invest to review these things. But normally this would have likely been nothing if we saw this live.

Peace

I've switched my opinion on this play several times. Watching the game live, I thought it was a flagrant foul (NFHS intentional). Seeing the replay it looks as though Wade is doing a "swim move" to get around Stephenson. This makes me think the contact can be considered incidental. However, Wade could have run around him without jumping into the air, and without contacting Stephenson's head. So I am pretty back and forth on it. My current opinion is that I would call a NFHS intentional foul because this contact was unnecessary.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I've switched my opinion on this play several times. Watching the game live, I thought it was a flagrant foul (NFHS intentional). Seeing the replay it looks as though Wade is doing a "swim move" to get around Stephenson. This makes me think the contact can be considered incidental. However, Wade could have run around him without jumping into the air, and without contacting Stephenson's head. So I am pretty back and forth on it. My current opinion is that I would call a NFHS intentional foul because this contact was unnecessary.

I do not think Wade saw him until the last few steps. I think Wade was running hard and the Indiana player stopped in this way and Wade had to make a quick decision. It might not have been the best decision, but he did not just turn on a dime and move in another direction. That is why I am not confident in calling anything live and think only a review would even notice anyone was actually hit in the head.

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Wade could have run around him without jumping into the air, and without contacting Stephenson's head. My current opinion is that I would call a NFHS intentional foul because this contact was unnecessary.

Agreed. Maybe Wade didn't see the guy until it was too late to avoid contact. But the raising of the elbow is not a natural movement for a player who is trying to avoid or minimize the contact.

[maroonx]

I believing your lying eyes. Different standards for different players. that's why ratings suck. lots of better options on tv than watching horrible basketball

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by maroonx

I believing your lying eyes. Different standards for different players. that's why ratings suck. lots of better options on tv than watching horrible basketball

Actually the NBA ratings are quite high. The NBA gets better ratings in the playoffs than most MLB playoff games and even the World Series. The World Series this past year had worse ratings then the NBA Finals and the Pro Bowl (yes the Pro Bowl). I think the NBA is good. Actually all sports TV ratings have dropped but the NFL.

And I do not see any HS officials seeing this let alone ejecting someone because of it. Please HS officials do not get many of these plays when they are looking right at them directly or call intentional fouls when warranted and in front of God and country no matter who the player is that did the act.

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I do not see any HS officials seeing this let alone ejecting someone because of it. Please HS officials do not get many of these plays when they are looking right at them ......

You refer to HS officials in the third person. Do you put yourself in this category?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

You refer to HS officials in the third person. Do you put yourself in this category?

How else would I refer to officials that work HS? And since most people here are HS officials or only work HS, what other way would you like me to reference those that work HS basketball?

Peace

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by maroonx

I believing your lying eyes. Different standards for different players. that's why ratings suck. lots of better options on tv than watching horrible basketball

OK, what is the excuse now big guy? LBJ fouls out in the closing seconds on a screen. He was called for a foul that was close on a verticality play (I would like to see that again BTW). Now what? It does not seem to fit your little theory.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

OK, what is the excuse now big guy? LBJ fouls out in the closing seconds on a screen. He was called for a foul that was close on a verticality play (I would like to see that again BTW). Now what? It does not seem to fit your little theory.

Peace

A lot of things don't fit people's prejudices when it comes to the NBA. After the 3rd game Miami blow-out I was reading all kinds of conspiracy theories on Facebook. Nevermind that Miami outscored Indy in the paint 52-38 with no legit post players, Miami outshot Indy 55% to 40%, and that Indy shot 44 FTs to Miami's 28 FTs.

I mean, I don't watch a lot of NBA at all (haven't watched a full game yet this season) but it's not b/c of these ridiculous tin foil helmet reasons that I keep reading from folks.