WCF Game 2 FF1
Can you post the FF that happened with about 30 seconds to go in the 4th Quarter. I am hearing that Tony Allen acted a little. ;)
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For the record I did not see the play. Just heard about it from a couple of places.
Also a little birdie told me it was correct. I just want to see it for myself. Peace |
I just saw the play. It would have been an IF in HS and a FF at the other levels. The acting was a bit much, but the call was made before that I am sure.
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Definite IF/FF1 in HS and NCAA. I don't know the NBA standards:
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A quick question based on NFHS rules. I can see the Intentional Foul call here, but I don't see it as extremely obvious -- my initial thought was this is borderline. So my question ... does the fall factor into the equation when making this decision?
And if not, what is the primary reason you would call this an IF in a HS game? The advantageous position of the shooter? Contact not playing the ball? Excessive contact? Just curious. I see a bit of a hold on the arm after the initial contact, which is why I would probably call it intentional. But in real time, it looked like there was some attempt made to play the ball, and I thought that Ginobali got back into the play enough so that it was not neutralizing an obvious advantageous position by the offense, which is one of the possible reasons for an intentional foul. |
I would call an IF for excessive contact. His behavior afterwards would not go into the equation. He was clearly pulled down from behind and fell hard to the floor. This would be a rather easy call for me. I cannot see myself thinking twice in this situation.
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BTW, Steve Javie said it was the correct call. For those that do not know Javie works for ESPN now and is a former NBA Official.
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Does the NBA's new flopping rule/fine come into play here for Allen's antics after the play? It does not appear he hit his head on anything, but I also don't think there is a question that he fell pretty hard. Despite not hitting his head, I can see the play causing him to be a little woozy, but cannot see any reason for him to be writhing on the ground. In OT, I think he was the Memphis player that was not even running up the court anymore and came up about ten feet short on a wide open three. So maybe it's possible he sustained some sort of head injury on the play (maybe something happened in OT that I missed though). |
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I don't know where or if he did hit his head but after that amount of contact, I don't really care (as far as the flopping rules/fines go). |
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