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Old Sun May 12, 2013, 10:49pm
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[Video Request] Backcourt off of halfcourt pass/shot?

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I'm wondering if someone still has a link to the video where the guy passes/shoots at halfcourt then the ball bounces back into the backcourt with the official calling backcourt violation? Thanks in advance to anyone who finds and shares the link!
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Old Mon May 13, 2013, 12:19am
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Found it:

Kaelen Riley CHS vs Coosa - YouTube

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Old Mon May 13, 2013, 04:48am
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Did we ever come up with a consensus on the ruling?
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Old Mon May 13, 2013, 06:32am
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consensus should be no backcourt. By rule, the criteria for backcourt violation are not met.

Team control ends when the ball is released on a try or tap for goal. Therefore, there can be no backcourt violation.
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Old Mon May 13, 2013, 07:35am
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consensus should be no backcourt. By rule, the criteria for backcourt violation are not met.

Team control ends when the ball is released on a try or tap for goal. Therefore, there can be no backcourt violation.
We all know the rule. The debate (and lack of consensus) was whether or not this is judged to be a try.
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Old Mon May 13, 2013, 09:54am
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Here is a play from an inbound.
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Old Mon May 13, 2013, 11:44am
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We all know the rule. The debate (and lack of consensus) was whether or not this is judged to be a try.
hmm... I watched it again. It hadn't even occured to me when watching it the first time that this might have been a pass. There was one offensive player in the area that is in position to attempt a rebound if it had been an airball, but I don't like to guess on violations. If I'm not reasonably sure a violation occured (travel, oob, backcourt, etc), I'm not calling something. I don't know how you can be "sure" in this case that it was a pass.

Now if this happened in the middle of the quarter, that's different. But in an end of game situation, a half court heave in the direction of the basket (that hits the basket as added evidence) ... I'm treating that like a shot.

On second look, a couple other thoughts:
1) We can't see the C in the clip. Would his signal (3 pt attempt or not) matter? Perhaps the T saw that the C did not signal a shot, and therefore called the violation.
2) If you're the C and you signal a 3 pt attempt, do you run over to the T and share this with them?

Again, not saying this happened since we can't see the C, but how do you administer something like this. If C signaled something that would make the T's call wrong by rule, what do you do? Is it still the T's call to change, even though the key factor (shot or no shot) occured in the C's primary?
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