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Official NCAAM and NCAAW Proposed Rule Changes for 2013-14 Season
Note: All of these still have to be approved by the Playing Rules Oversight Panel, which next convenes via conference call June 18, before becoming effective for the 2013-14 season.
The NCAA Men’s Basketball Rules Committee recommended a significant focus on freedom of movement and a change to how block/charge calls will be made, and the NCAA Women’s Basketball Rules Committee recommended adding a 10-second backcourt rule during their respective annual meetings Monday-Thursday in Indianapolis. The men’s committee focused much of its discussions on attempting to open the game. “We talked a lot about the rules that are currently in place and ultimately believe a focused effort on calling the rules as written will have an immediate and significant impact,” said John Dunne, chair of the committee and head coach at Saint Peter’s. For what is believed to be the first time, the committee met with the National Association of Basketball Coaches board of directors and Division I Men’s Basketball Committee to share concepts and opinions. “It was a tremendous opportunity to get some feedback and ultimately, particularly from the coaches, the emphasis was to call the rules that are already in the book,” Dunne said. In regard to the block/charge call in men’s basketball, the committee is proposing that a defensive player is not permitted to move into the path of an offensive player once he has started his upward motion with the ball to attempt a field goal or pass. If the defensive player is not in legal guarding position by this time, it is a blocking foul. The current rule calls for a defender to be in legal guarding position before the offensive player lifts off the floor. Committee members believe this will give officials more time to determine block/charge calls. Committee members also believe the tweak to the block/charge rule will: •Allow for more offensive freedom; •Provide clarity for officials in making this difficult call; and •Enhance the balance between offense and defense. In Division I games last season, the average amount of points scored in games was 67.5. This is the lowest scoring average since the 1981-82 season when teams averaged 67.6 points per game. The points-per-game average has also dipped in each of the last four seasons at the Division I level. To curtail the impeding progress of a player, it will be stressed to officials that they must address these rules throughout the game. The committee wants the following types of personal fouls be called consistently throughout the game: •When a defensive player keeps a hand or forearm on an opponent; •When a defensive player puts two hands on an opponent; •When a defensive player continually jabs by extending his arm(s) and placing a hand or forearm on the opponent; •When a player uses an arm bar to impede the progress of an opponent. Women’s 10-second backcourt rule In women’s basketball, committee members added the 10-second rule in the backcourt for the first time since the NCAA began administering women’s championships in 1981-82. Previously, teams could take as much time off the 30-second shot clock as they wanted before crossing the mid-court line. Officials will use the shot clock to determine if a 10-second violation has occurred. Committee members believe adding the 10-second rule it will increase the tempo of the game and create more offensive scoring opportunities. NCAA women’s basketball is the only level in the sport throughout the world that does not have a backcourt rule in place. If this rule is adopted by the Playing Rules Oversight Panel, the committee is also recommended that the closely guarded rule in the backcourt be eliminated from the rules book. The closely guarded rule in the frontcourt would read that a player holding the ball for five seconds with a defender not exceeding six feet will be a violation. Previously, the defender had to be within three feet of the offensive player with the ball to force a five-second violation. “Given feedback from stakeholders through the years, this is the right time to approve the rule,” said Barbara Burke, women’s basketball rules committee chair and director of athletics at Eastern Illinois. “Overall, we discussed pace of play, creating scoring opportunities and flow of the game. Adding the 10-second backcourt rule adds another element of strategy, and this rule fits into the concepts of growing the game.” Monitor reviews In men’s and women’s basketball, the committee recommended that in the last two minutes of regulation and overtime officials can go to the monitor to review a shot clock violation and to determine who caused the ball to go out of bounds on a deflection involving two or more players. Additionally, it was recommended that when officials have a question to whether a shot was 2-point or a 3-point field goal, they will be allowed to signal to the scorer’s table that the play will be reviewed during the next media timeout. The Big Ten Conference successfully experimented with this rule during the season in 2012-13. In the last 4 minutes of the game and the entire overtime, officials will go to monitor immediately to look for indisputable evidence as to how many points should be awarded for a field goal. Both committees approved the use of the monitor to determine the fouler when there is uncertainty after a call has been made. Currently, officials have only been permitted to determine the free throw shooter using the monitor. Elbow rules In men’s and women’s basketball, if a foul was called for elbow contact above the shoulders, the monitor may be used to determine if a flagrant foul has been committed. In this scenario, the official may determine if the contact was a flagrant 2, flagrant 1, common foul or no call. When the officials use the monitor to review a situation that is not called on the floor, the only options are flagrant 2, flagrant 1 or no foul. “The intent of the elbow rule has always been to protect the student-athletes and eliminate the rip move in men’s basketball,” Dunne said. “There was a strong feeling in the men’s community that some other types of elbow contact didn’t deserve a flagrant 1, so we are allowing the limited use of the monitor to appropriately manage this play.” In a flagrant 1 situation, the player who was struck is awarded two free throws and his team gets possession of the ball. In a flagrant 2 situation, free throws and possession are awarded and the player who threw the elbow is ejected from the game. Women’s media timeouts When a team-called timeout occurs within 30 seconds prior to the scheduled media timeout (first dead ball under the 16-, 12-, 8-, and 4-minute marks), it will become that media timeout with the exception of the first called team timeout in the second half. For example, when Team A calls a timeout at 16:02 in the first half, there will not be another timeout at the first dead ball under the 16-minute mark. Committee members want to eliminate consecutive timeout stoppages in play. Lower-defensive box added to the restricted-area rule In women’s basketball, the committee revised the restricted area rule in the lower defensive box (the area on the court that starts at the second free-throw lane space to the three-foot area outside the lane to the baseline). When a player with the ball starts outside the lower defensive box area, a secondary defender must be outside the restricted area to draw a charge. When a player with the ball starts her move from inside the lower defensive box area, a secondary defender can draw a charge the restricted area is not in effect. |
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I disagree with the point that that it will give officials more time to determine block/charge or that it will provide any more clarity in making the call. It won't. It simply moves the point where a decision goes to a block vs. a charge. The official still has to make a decision and it will still come down to splitting hairs, just different hairs. It will allow for more freedom of movement...the defender's job just got harder to perform legally. So, it will lead to more successful attacks at the basket. I also wouldn't say it "Enhances the balance" between offense and defense. It just changes it. People that like good defense will not think it is an enhancement. |
Question on the 10 second count being added in NCAAW...do the NCAAM use the shot clock to determine the 10 second count as this article says the NCAAW will? That doesn't seem to make sense to me. Maybe I am wrong on this, but on a throw-in in the back court, the clock and 30 sec clock start on a defensive tip, but the count doesn't start until A has control, correct? So why would they use the shot clock to determine the 10 sec count?
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Obviously none of this NCAA material is being written or said by an official because the statements and conclusions don't make sense from an officiating standpoint. It's all about the $. |
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When a team-called timeout occurs within 30 seconds prior to the scheduled media timeout (first dead ball under the 16-, 12-, 8-, and 4-minute marks), it will become that media timeout with the exception of the first called team timeout in the second half.
Oh, please oh please!! |
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For me, this rule will become a real headache if it's adopted for my GV games in NYS. Since we usually have students at the table I'm generally thrilled when I can find a shot-clock operator who resets the thing when he/she is supposed to more than 75% of the time. |
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NCAAW = 10-second count begins when the ball is TOUCHED by Team A in its backcourt. NCAAM = 10-second count begins when the ball is CONTROLLED by an inbounds player from Team A in their backcourt. Given that TC exists on a throw-in, the way the women are handling it makes sense. |
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And if the defense touches the ball first? Shot clock doesn't start??? Or it does and the offense's 10 second Count started when the other team tipped the ball???:eek: |
What's the big deal? The rule can be written however they wish.
All that they need do is word it such that following a team initially being awarded a throw-in the team with the ball must advance it to the frontcourt prior to 10 seconds coming off the shot clock. For a ball which gets knocked into the backcourt during a possession, they could put in a rule requiring returning it to the frontcourt within ten seconds or they could just permit the team to use the rest of the shot clock. It doesn't matter how they do it as long as everyone is clear on what the rule is. |
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Genius. I never thought that "they" could write it however they wished! If only I was as smart as you!:cool: Anyway...jetmetfan, please let me know what you find out. And thanks for checking in the first place. It just seems that we would be penalizing a team (losing some of their 10) for the defense tipping the ball away. We really shouldn't start the 10 until the team has control inbounds - just like on a rebound, or a ball tipped into backcourt by the defense, etc. |
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I guess this is Karma. 2008-09 NFHS Basketball Rules Interpretations SITUATION 8: A1 is dribbling in his/her frontcourt when B1 deflects the ball into A's backcourt. The ball is bouncing toward the end line in A's backcourt while A1 and B1 give chase. B1 and A1 each contact the ball, but neither gains control. Finally, after numerous attempts by each player, A1 gains possession deep in A's backcourt. When does the 10-second count begin anew for Team A? RULING: The count starts as soon as the ball goes into the backcourt since team control has not ended. (4-12-3; 9-8) |
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Knew that. Hate it when I don't stop to think before I type. As Roseanne Rosanna-danna would say....Never mind. |
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Clarification alert!!!
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My FNI also advises we shouldn't go crazy trying to dissect the proposals until June 18 when PROP makes its decision on them. But given who we are... :) Again, this is the NCAAW interpretation ONLY. |
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I don't understand why rocky felt compelled to take a shot at me for expressing my feeling on such a ruling. |
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Ok...I was asking questions to get some clarification on the timing issue, and you come in with the "What's the big deal" comment - and I wasn't the only one who thought that was over the top. So you got a shot back at you. Was that juvenile of me? Yeah, I will own that. Now back to your regular scheduled events... |
I've been advocating the 10 sec count in the women's game for years.Let's see if it passes the ultimate test.
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10 sec count
The rule change is not a big deal. There will be almost no
10 second violations called. Teams will adjust. The pain will be dealing with bad shot clock operators and Having to make corrections when they screw up |
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It would have been easier had they just eliminated the player control foul, which is what most want to do anyway.
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From what I found out from the classroom session with Debbie Williamson this past weekend:
Administering official will bring in subs. They will have the whistle, and hold their hand in the air until there are 5 vs 5 on the floor. (We did this at camp this past weekend, and, let me tell ya, I felt like a doofus holding my hand in the air for myself to bring in subs.) Rule 4 will go from about 70 articles to about 35-40. They are moving things around to make them easier to find. Now you have to go to 3-4 different rules to read about the free throw, whereas in the new rules books all you'll have to do is go to Rule 8 only. Rule 11 will be Monitor articles. There will be two separate books for the men's and women's rules. Case books will be separate as well. There will be a new 10 second count in the backcourt if the ball becomes dead and the offense still has the ball. So you will then go off of what the shot clock says when the ball is put back in play. (Clock awareness is going to be crucial here.) Under 30 seconds (when the shot clock is off), there will be a visible 10 second backcourt count by the Trail official. I think that was the main stuff besides what the OP has in their post. |
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And, the specific mechanics on bringing in the subs are still being developed -- and I agree it was strange. |
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Also, that really isn't any different than officials counting. I guarantee there is a lot more than 0.9 seconds of inaccuracy in most counts....usually on the slow side. |
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Although Debbie would have a better idea of what she was looking for than an other member of the rules committee -Josh |
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Debbie did say that the Center can help with this, but they want the call coming from the trail unless the Center is ABSOLUTELY SURE that more than 10 seconds had elapsed while the ball is in the backcourt. Quote:
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In NCAAW, that same play would be a violation once 10 seconds ran off the shot clock. |
Supposedly the Men will be using the shot clock also.
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"This memorandum serves to communicate a rule change approved by the Women’s Basketball Rules Committee and Playing Rules Oversight Panel (PROP) regarding the lower defensive box and required court markings. The change, which becomes effective with the 2013-14 season, requires institutions to add two 12” x 2” lines (“tick marks”) on the baseline which are located 3 feet from the outside edge of the lane line. The tick marks should be measured from the outside edge of the lane line to the inside edge of the tick mark on both sides of the lane and on both ends of the court. The court diagram below may also be viewed at the following link:" I guess I should expect to see this marking on all collegiate courts this season. So NCAA-W are going with a rule similar to the NBA? |
Not so fast my friend...
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I'll be on the look-out to make sure you're handling it right if we have any DHs. :D |
BNR...I look forward to coming down your way to CNU for a game or two. Maybe we will get that DH.
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