2013-2014 NFHS Basketball rule changes
 

So they still aren't going to fix the team control mess. :(

But they can expand the fashion police state!! Which will probably not cut down on the use of sleeves like they want because it will be just like the arm ones now.

Forgive me, but what Team Control mess?

I hate the fact they now have added color restrictions to leggings or sleeves. Now that is going to harder to comply with as it will take players longer to correct that problem. Why should we care about what color for these items. Next thing we are going to say is the shoes and socks should match. :rolleyes:

Peace

I'm guessing he meant TC while inbounding the ball, and the ambiguities they created there.

Other than color, in practice this won't change the use of the sleeves like they want, will it? "Coach, is your team property equipped?" "Yep." same as with the arm ones.

I guess I will have to start packing a ruler to make sure the manufacturers logo is no bigger than 2-1/4 inches.

Or just wait until someone watching on tv phones in and lets me know they violated the uniform rules.

I would agree that maybe they could change some language, but I do not see that as a major problem. Then again this is like the horse-collar rule in football where the NF did not want to adopt the entire rule of the other levels to seem to stay independent. Then it took them 3 years to get the rule ultimately right.

And I did have to spend some time this year to get teams to have one of their players remove an arm-sleeve in order to comply. I know that if the rule was the same we would spend time trying to get players on the same page. Now I am hoping that the rule does not require all arm-sleeves and leg sleeves to be the same color. I think we would get more blowback for the leg sleeves and might expose some full length leggings in the process. At least and arm sleeve takes a second to remove.

Peace

Finally made the iPad legal on the bench for coaching and stats. Just don't talk to players with it...and don't call me over and say, "Hey ref. Take a look at how badly you blew that call."

"In addition to these rules changes, the committee approved a new defensive tip signal that will be added to the Basketball Officials Manual. This signal will be given by the official when the ball enters the backcourt as a result of contact with the defensive player."

hmmmm

Wish this were included for tipped shots as well. I've had a couple cases as the lead where an airball (shot from out of my area where I wasn't looking) has gone out of bounds and I have had to look for help from my partner to know whether it was a straight airball or a tipped shot. Or I point the other direction only to have my partner come tell me it was tipped and I change the call.

If I see my partner make a "tip ball" sign, I can make my OOB call without any doubt.

If it wasn't tipped, I'm turning and walking the other way. If it was, I'm walking in your direction with a few quick steps.

If you look at me for help, I'm pointing the proper way (since I know if it was tipped or not).

I still wish they'd let us use 2 hands for players' numbers.

I hate the tip signal on shots. Yeah, it may save half a second on an OOB call, but it causes more headaches than it's worth. I have more plays where I call a foul while my partner is giving the tip signal (in my PCA) than OOB plays where I need help.

The fact that the team control rule does not say what they want it to mean, and when officials start reading the rule book, they're going to make rulings that were never intended by the change.

Fashion Police Detective's Exam ...
 

Do you think that the rule will allow for different colors like the headband/wristband/armband rule? Let's say that many players on Team A, all wearing red jerseys, are wearing white headbands. Several are wearing red wristbands, and several are wearing black arm compression sleeves (for medical reasons). Nobody's wearing any other colors. Everybody's legal? Right?

Unless the rule is going to change, the team has to match in color with the headbands and wristbands. Then the "team" color could be different for an arm sleeve. And unless the rule is clear there could be a different color for compression sleeves on the legs. I just do not know why anyone cares about this?

Peace

Nope, the headbands and wristbands must be the same color.

Stupid NFHS Fashion Police Monkeys ...
 

Full length tights? Illegal.
Compression shorts? Legal if above the knee and single color similar to color of the shorts.
Undergarments? Legal if they don't extend below the shorts.
Leg sleeves? Legal for medical reasons with color restrictions.
Socks? No rules, even if they go from the player's feet all the way up underneath the player's shorts. Socks (below) are legal.

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.45683...74414&pid=15.1

Turn In Your Service Weapons And Fashion Police Badges ...
 

Says who?

3-5-4-A: Headbands and wristbands shall be white, black, beige or a single solid school color and shall be the same color for each item and all participants.

"Same color for each item."

Not, same color for both items.

Billy I am very aware of the rule. And there was once a rule about socks and the logo and I remember the silliness the NF has worried about when it comes to uniforms. I just think it is silly and open up all kinds of problems. And once again this is why there needs to be people that actually officiate or are active to make these decisions. I cannot think of any official that loves worrying about these things when we are out there to work a game. It is an annoyance at best that it even has to be addressed and mostly done out of fear that someone not associated with the game will come down on us for ignoring the rule.

Peace

Maybe you need to go back and look at the NF slides when the rule was changed or look at the Simplified and Illustrated Book, because it is clear that you cannot have one color for a head band and someone else wears a wristband of a different color.

Peace

Please ...
 

I am not, repeat, am not, questioning your integrity, but I would love to see these.

Agree ...
 

Powerful words.

Just put my check in the mail.

3.5.4 SITUATION: Team A’s school colors are blue and gold and the predomi- nate color of Team A’s jerseys are white. Prior to the game, an official notices that several Team A members are wearing (a) blue headbands and blue wristbands; or (b) beige pre-wrap around the entire head and blue wristbands. RULING: Legal in (a). Illegal equipment in (b); the headband color does not match the wristband color. The official shall inform the player and the head coach that these items are illegal and may not be worn during the game.

Thanks For Pointing This Out ...
 

JRutledge and Nevadaref. I apologize. It appears that you are correct, headbands must be the same color as wristbands, according to this casebook play:

3.5.4 SITUATION: Team A’s school colors are blue and gold and the predominate color of Team A’s jerseys are white. Prior to the game, an official notices that several Team A members are wearing beige pre-wrap around the entire head and blue wristbands. RULING: Illegal equipment in ; the headband color does not match the wristband color. The official shall inform the player and the head coach that these items are illegal and may not be worn during the game.

Yet another instance where the wording of the rule doesn't match the casebook play.

Thanks ...
 

It's already in the mail. I would still like to see the NFHS slide when the rule was changed, or the illustration in the the Simplified and Illustrated Book.

I also believe that the wording in the actual rule must be changed.

3-5-3

Sorry I cannot tell you the exact page of the slide shows, but this was a NF slide that shows what the intent of the rule is.

And Billy I would think you would know that the rulebook tells you what the rule says, the casebook tells you how to apply the rule. I think you read too much into the situation and what the rule meant. This was cleared up a long time ago.

Peace

Thanks ...
 

Fools Rush In Where Wise Men Never Go (Ricky Nelson) ...
 

So it was an issue at one time in the past? I think that I was absent the day that it was cleared up. I had the flu. Yeah. That's it. Absent. Now I don't feel so foolish. I still feel foolish, but not as foolish.

No. It was clearly the intent of the rule from the very beginning, you must have missed it if you did not realize this was out there. Or maybe IAABO does not do a good job of informing you guys of the change when it took place. So no this was never something anyone I have ever come in contact was confused by if they were properly informed.

Peace

Jeffrey ???
 

JRutledge: While trying to find a date on the Power Point that you posted (2008), I discovered that you were the author. Excellent presentation. The group(s) that you educate is lucky to have you.

You posted that this was a change. What was the previous rule?

This is from 2006-07. Since the NFHS used the word "established" it would appear nothing was set in stone until '06-07 then NFHS revised the rule for '08-09.

No sock rule in NFHS but NCAA does have one:

3-8-1 A single manufacturer’s or distributor’s normal logo, label or trademark meeting the size restrictions of 3-8.2 is permitted once on the game jersey, once on the game pants and once on all other items of apparel excluding the undershirt.

Which means only one namufacturer's logo is allowed on socks as well as all other itms other than undershirts. I've heard tell of this being enforced as far as the socks are concerned. My NCAAW assignor reminds us every February to keep the rule in mind, mainly to get schools used to it during the NCAAs. It could be the most hated rule in the book.

Actually Billy this was posted last year. I have run a class for 6 years (I believe) and I have modified that particular module every year when there have been changes to uniform rules to reflect new rules or changes to all these rules.

That being said the old rule was there was no color restriction. Then the NF said that all these items had to be the same color. Then they added colors (team color). Then a color restriction on what the arm sleeves were to be. Now the addition of leg sleeves or other leg items.

Peace

Just The Facts, Ma’am ...
 

I don't like the direction that this is heading.

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Paul, you signal tipped ball on the shot as I whistle a foul.

It's almost as bad as a blarge.

The tipped ball signal should never be used on a shot.

The rule has always (well, 10 years or so) been 2 1/4 inches. It's allowing the logo on the jersey that's new.

Shoes and socks to follow?

And Don't Click Your Ruby Slippers Together While Saying It ......
 

Bite your tongue.