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Old Wed Apr 10, 2013, 08:54am
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Michigan vs. Louisville rebound action aprox 50 seconds left

With about 50 seconds left in the game, Louisville shot with the shot clock about to expire. In live action on TV, it looked like Michigan player Trey Burke got pushed and knocked down on the rebound and he may have been pushed into the Michigan player who got the rebound and landed out of bounds.

I only saw the play once and not sure if there was a foul or not. None was called. At the time Michigan was down by 4 points and shooting the double bonus. Did others think there was a foul or good no call?
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Old Wed Apr 10, 2013, 09:55am
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Old Wed Apr 10, 2013, 10:51am
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23 was out of bounds on his own. Even if his teammate pushed him, he did it before getting any sort of push from white. I don't see a foul.
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Old Wed Apr 10, 2013, 11:09am
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23 was out of bounds on his own. Even if his teammate pushed him, he did it before getting any sort of push from white. I don't see a foul.
Agreed. It looks as though Burke and McGary push their own teammate before the L'ville player lands on Burke. By that time, we already had the oob violation, so the landing on Burke is ignored - unless someone wants to argue it is intentional or flagrant.
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Old Wed Apr 10, 2013, 12:16pm
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I agree with Adam and rocky.
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I will say it was flagrant. He flagrantly obeyed the laws of gravity and refused to remain airborne.
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Old Thu Apr 11, 2013, 09:55am
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I will say it was flagrant. He flagrantly obeyed the laws of gravity and refused to remain airborne.
Now, that's funny!
I always get a kick out of someone saying, "He defied the law of gravity!" Yeah, maybe for a moment, but gravity always wins in the end.
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Old Thu Apr 11, 2013, 11:55am
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Wow, how does the C not have a foul there? The foul and OOB violations occur almost simultaineously. I would have thought it would have been worthy of a meeting of the two officials. In the end, the guy went OOB on his own and the foul on the LVille player had nothing to do with that. That had the potential to be a sticky call though.
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Old Thu Apr 11, 2013, 11:59am
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Wow, how does the C not have a foul there? The foul and OOB violations occur almost simultaineously. I would have thought it would have been worthy of a meeting of the two officials. In the end, the guy went OOB on his own and the foul on the LVille player had nothing to do with that. That had the potential to be a sticky call though.
Because the C, having a patient whistle, knew that contact had no effect on the play....no possession consequence. The player who rebounded the ball was heading OOB and waiting to let him do so was the right thing.
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Old Thu Apr 11, 2013, 01:04pm
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Because the C, having a patient whistle, knew that contact had no effect on the play....no possession consequence. The player who rebounded the ball was heading OOB and waiting to let him do so was the right thing.
I think you are giving him a lot of credit. That's the same guy that called the "block" on Burke and guessed on the foul on Burke on the corner 3. Suggesting that he was somehow simultaneously aware of the trajectory of a rebounder that was blocked from his view due to all of the significant contact occuring right in front of him may be a stretch.
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I think you are giving him a lot of credit. That's the same guy that called the "block" on Burke and guessed on the foul on Burke on the corner 3. Suggesting that he was somehow simultaneously aware of the trajectory of a rebounder that was blocked from his view due to all of the significant contact occuring right in front of him may be a stretch.
"That guy" made a bad call on the Burke block. But "that guy" has worked multiple Final Fours and Championship games. One bad call doesn't invalidate his ability to judge other plays.
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"That guy" made a bad call on the Burke block. But "that guy" has worked multiple Final Fours and Championship games. One bad call doesn't invalidate his ability to judge other plays.
Yep. We have all missed a call during a game. Yes it was not a great call, but that does not mean the next 3 or 4 he did not totally get right.

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Old Thu Apr 11, 2013, 01:40pm
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I think you are giving him a lot of credit. That's the same guy that called the "block" on Burke and guessed on the foul on Burke on the corner 3. Suggesting that he was somehow simultaneously aware of the trajectory of a rebounder that was blocked from his view due to all of the significant contact occuring right in front of him may be a stretch.
The block call was a bad call. The call on the 3 by Hancock was not a bad call. You just didn't like it for some reason. As far as this call, the contact by the flying Louisville player happened after the Michigan player landed oob. That's not gonna get a whistle. And if it had, the L would have told the C that the oob happened first. Really not sure why anyone would have a problem with this play.
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Old Thu Apr 11, 2013, 03:58pm
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Wow, how does the C not have a foul there? The foul and OOB violations occur almost simultaineously. I would have thought it would have been worthy of a meeting of the two officials. In the end, the guy went OOB on his own and the foul on the LVille player had nothing to do with that. That had the potential to be a sticky call though.
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Old Thu Apr 11, 2013, 07:33pm
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I think you are giving him a lot of credit. That's the same guy that called the "block" on Burke and guessed on the foul on Burke on the corner 3. Suggesting that he was somehow simultaneously aware of the trajectory of a rebounder that was blocked from his view due to all of the significant contact occuring right in front of him may be a stretch.
Yeah, why would you give any credit or benefit of the doubt to this official. I mean anybody can work multiple Final 4s and Championship games......

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