Michigan-Louisville clip rebounding no call (6:51 2nd half)

[VaTerp]

I'd like to see the C get Dieng with a foul when 52 has two hands on the ball.

[ballgame99]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

I'd like to see the C get Dieng with a foul when 52 has two hands on the ball.

Agree. Also noticed the two travels on White 10 before he got a shot off.

[JeffM]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

I'd like to see the C get Dieng with a foul when 52 has two hands on the ball.

I also would have liked to see the #52 foul on Dieng called.

It seemed to me like the players were getting more aggressive throughout that play and that a whistle would have been appropriate to keep it from escalating further.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JeffM

I also would have liked to see the #52 foul on Dieng called.

It seemed to me like the players were getting more aggressive throughout that play and that a whistle would have been appropriate to keep it from escalating further.

The play took care of itself with an OOB violation. There was no escalation.

[JRutledge]

I see only one possible travel. I see a shooter not being able to shoot because the defense is all over the ball. Sorry, that is not a travel to me. And I love the "travel" guys because I see that missed all the time in regular high school games. I guess the guys get them all here.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I see only one possible travel. I see a shooter not being able to shoot because the defense is all over the ball. Sorry, that is not a travel to me. And I love the "travel" guys because I see that missed all the time in regular high school games. I guess the guys get them all here.

Peace

When the player with the ball jumps and lands without releasing the ball, you have either a travel or a jump ball....not other choices if the rules are followed.

His other travel was switching the pivot foot before he dribbled....pretty clear too.

Maybe one day you'll move up from recognizing only middle school travels. THere is hope for you yet.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

When the player with the ball jumps and lands without releasing the ball, you have either a travel or a jump ball....not other choices if the rules are followed.

His other travel was switching the pivot foot before he dribbled....pretty clear too.

Maybe one day you'll move up from recognizing only middle school travels. THere is hope for you yet.

Well it cannot be a travel if you do not have control of the ball. It cannot be a held ball unless you judge at the NCAA level that he had control of the ball on the way down. Once again, there is a debate we can have about how much control the UL player had during his move to the basket. The UL player does try to take on two players to shoot through. It is very likely the ball is being knocked around.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Well it cannot be a travel if you do not have control of the ball. It cannot be a held ball unless you judge at the NCAA level that he had control of the ball on the way down. Once again, there is a debate we can have about how much control the UL player had during his move to the basket. The UL player does try to take on two players to shoot through. It is very likely the ball is being knocked around.

Peace

That's not the more noticeable travel. Dieng clearly travelled before he dribbled.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Well it cannot be a travel if you do not have control of the ball. It cannot be a held ball unless you judge at the NCAA level that he had control of the ball on the way down. Once again, there is a debate we can have about how much control the UL player had during his move to the basket. The UL player does try to take on two players to shoot through. It is very likely the ball is being knocked around.

Peace

So, a ball that never leaves a player's hands is not in control???

WOW. Keep making stuff up. You're good at it.

[#olderthanilook]

Video is fairly conclusive....the post player traveled at least twice.

The first travel occurs when his back is to the bucket and lifts both feet before starting a dribble. The second is when he falls backward trying to avoid good defensive position by the Michigan big blocking his direct path to the rim.

AND, how about #7 for L'ville running out of bounds along the baseline (to avoid his own player, no less) just prior to the L'ville big traveling the first time?

Hello.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

AND, how about #7 for L'ville running out of bounds along the baseline (to avoid his own player, no less) ...?

Hello.

Your point?

That is not illegal at the NCAA unless the ball is thrown to #7 as he returns inbounds.

(That is the way the NFHS rule should be)

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

AND, how about #7 for L'ville running out of bounds along the baseline (to avoid his own player, no less) just prior to the L'ville big traveling the first time?

If there was a #7 out there for Louisville the crew was having more problems than we thought.