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Old Tue Apr 09, 2013, 07:55pm
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Will be three females. The reverse sexism in the officiating of the women's game is sick. After all the complaining about not getting a decent shot at men's games, it is ironic to see how those in charge completely shut out males with their choices.
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Old Tue Apr 09, 2013, 08:04pm
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F1 on UCONN...contact or flop?
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Old Tue Apr 09, 2013, 08:15pm
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F1 on UCONN...contact or flop?
Slight contact, but FLOP.

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3 deserving female officials on the floor to work the WOMENS championship game and 3 deserving male officials on the floor to work the MENS championship game...what's the problem?
My thoughts exactly.

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Old Tue Apr 09, 2013, 08:05pm
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Brenda Pantoja is from out west. Don't know the names of the other two, but I recognize them.
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Old Tue Apr 09, 2013, 08:15pm
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Seriously??

3 deserving female officials on the floor to work the WOMENS championship game and 3 deserving male officials on the floor to work the MENS championship game...what's the problem?

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Old Tue Apr 09, 2013, 09:42pm
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3 deserving female officials on the floor to work the WOMENS championship game and 3 deserving male officials on the floor to work the MENS championship game...what's the problem?
100% agreed.

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Old Tue Apr 09, 2013, 09:50pm
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I've personally seen female officials selected over more deserving male counterparts at both the HS and college levels for no other reason than their gender. It happens and it is wrong.

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Old Tue Apr 09, 2013, 09:53pm
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See what I did there?

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Disagree, and have every right to. I've personally seen female officials selected over more deserving male counterparts at both the HS and college levels for no other reason than their gender. It happens and it is wrong.
Hey, they might have made a bad call but at least they were consistent about it...
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Old Tue Apr 09, 2013, 09:58pm
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Disagree, and have every right to. I've personally seen female officials selected over more deserving male counterparts at both the HS and college levels for no other reason than their gender. It happens and it is wrong.
You specifically referenced this game. What does what you personally have witnessed in your corner of the world have to do with Pantoja, Mattingly, and Brooks?

I've seen white officials picked over more deserving black officials in my corner of the world. Does that mean Higgins, Cahill, Hess, etc didn't deserve their assignments? For a lawyer you sure do make some illogical and baseless statements.
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Old Tue Apr 09, 2013, 10:25pm
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You specifically referenced this game. What does what you personally have witnessed in your corner of the world have to do with Pantoja, Mattingly, and Brooks?

I've seen white officials picked over more deserving black officials in my corner of the world. Does that mean Higgins, Cahill, Hess, etc didn't deserve their assignments? For a lawyer you sure do make some illogical and baseless statements.

And who the f**k are you to say who should or shouldn't be moderating?
Exactly. I love when a certain group that has always been getting the opportunities are finally shut out and all of a sudden there is some "reverse discrimination." What was it when no Blacks or Women ever worked those games? And heck I still see an entire staff in many conferences that look nothing like the players, but if people were to cry discrimination there they would be wrong?

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Old Wed Apr 10, 2013, 12:06pm
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Disagree, and have every right to. I've personally seen female officials selected over more deserving male counterparts at both the HS and college levels for no other reason than their gender. It happens and it is wrong.
+1

While I don't like it, it does happen. An assignor I used to work for said as much and acted accordingly. I know of several women that were given opportunities over men who had much more experience.

She promoted women to promote the women's game. That was her perogative to provide opportunities and promote accordingly. Some made the most of their chances, some did not.
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Old Wed Apr 10, 2013, 12:10pm
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As far as I'm concerned, women can have 100% of women and girls games.

The one thing I don't get is that when one of us (men) decides to work only mens/boys games why some people (assignors and other officials) have a problem with it. I don't see women being given the same grief when they choose not to work boys/mens games.
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Old Wed Apr 10, 2013, 12:14pm
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While I don't like it, it does happen. An assignor I used to work for said as much and acted accordingly. I know of several women that were given opportunities over men who had much more experience.

She promoted women to promote the women's game. That was her perogative to provide opportunities and promote accordingly. Some made the most of their chances, some did not.
What? Say it ain't so!

Oh wait...I heard those same things at the same meetings!

Bottom line is that the supervisors can hire whomever they wish. If they are promoting people based on things other than their officiating ability, they probably will not be the supervisor for very long (as happened to the person icallfouls referenced).
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Old Wed Apr 10, 2013, 07:42pm
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I know of several women that were given opportunities over men who had much more experience.

She promoted women to promote the women's game. That was her perogative to provide opportunities and promote accordingly. Some made the most of their chances, some did not.
I would say experience does not always make you a better official.
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Old Tue Apr 09, 2013, 08:30pm
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Great held ball call at 4:27. Classic women's game.
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