Michigan/Syracuse

[OKREF]

Block/Charge. 10:47 first half.

[Multiple Sports]

Thought this overrule was splitting hairs......maybe lead passed on push and was giving ball to Mich and not calling a foul...

[JeffM]

I'd like to see this play again.

[OKREF]

Oh this is going to be fun.

[JeffM]

It was called a charge, but it looked like a block to me...he seemed to be moving laterally into contact after player was airborne.

Originally Posted by JeffM

I'd like to see this play again.

Your title mentions the foul was on Hardaway. The foul was on Syracuse's Carter-Williams. I want to see it too! 1:40 second half.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I was wondering about that McGary save attempt that hit the board.

It appeared to me that it hit something in the lower back of the board then went UP slightly hitting some other support before coming back down to the floor where the SU player grabbed it.

The right team got the ball on that one so it didn't really have any effect if that was the case but I'd wonder if it was just my eyes or if it did what I thought it did.

The play is at 8:03, second half. Camron, I did a frame-by-frame, and the ball hits the bottom padding of the backboard, and deflects down. I didn't see it go up at all.

[Brad]

At 19.2 — real-time it is super obvious charge to me.

Slow motion I still had a charge. Player has two feet down and facing dribbler. Moves laterally, but really does not look like he slid under him — takes the contact right in the chest.



If this isn't a charge, shouldn't we just take the charge out of the rule book and only call blocks??? Have we adopted the commentator mindset of "he wasn't set"???

[dinoian]

It seemed a lot of times Michigan was inbounding that Syracuse was over the baseline, cutting off an angle (around 12:25 in the second half was one IIRC). Is there a difference in college rules/enforcement from high school that allows this?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

Thought this overrule was splitting hairs......maybe lead passed on push and was giving ball to Mich and not calling a foul...

Still, it was correct according to the replays (if I'm thinking of the right play). They got it right.

[Camron Rust]

I was wondering about that McGary save attempt that hit the board.

It appeared to me that it hit something in the lower back of the board then went UP slightly hitting some other support before coming back down to the floor where the SU player grabbed it.

The right team got the ball on that one so it didn't really have any effect if that was the case but I'd wonder if it was just my eyes or if it did what I thought it did.

[MathReferee]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I was wondering about that McGary save attempt that hit the board.

It appeared to me that it hit something in the lower back of the board then went UP slightly hitting some other support before coming back down to the floor where the SU player grabbed it.

The right team got the ball on that one so it didn't really have any effect if that was the case but I'd wonder if it was just my eyes or if it did what I thought it did.

I thought the same thing. It was inconsequential to the outcome of the play, but worth a look. Did C bail a little early since he would have had the best look?

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Still, it was correct according to the replays (if I'm thinking of the right play). They got it right.

There were two of them, and the overrules were correct.

[KMBReferee]

Between that charge at the end of the game and the held ball call, this wasn't the best night for college basketball officiating. Expect the morons at ESPN and sports radio to have a field day for the next 2-3 days.

[bainsey]

15:58, second half. I never thought of this before, but does the NCAA have the same plane violation rule (or something similar) as NFHS? I would say a defender's foot out of bounds, let alone the extended arm, is a hell of an advantage.

[MathReferee]

Originally Posted by KMBReferee

Between that charge at the end of the game and the held ball call, this wasn't the best night for college basketball officiating. Expect the morons at ESPN and sports radio to have a field day for the next 2-3 days.

Yes, in replay it was probably a block, but it was close enough that people are going to argue both sides of it. The foul call on Carter-Williams when it appeared Hardaway pushed off was a bigger one to discuss. In hindsight, I would bet the trail wished he was a step deeper to get a better look at it.

As far as the held ball goes, it was consistent with the rest of the game.