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Old Thu Apr 04, 2013, 01:14pm
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Sampson is in the NBA. Assistant with the Rockets.
I know that... that's where we started when his name came up.
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Old Thu Apr 04, 2013, 01:32pm
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Yes, but that's immaterial. He was fired for all that went on, whether you believe his side or Craig James's kid's side. He has since found a new job.
More like he was fired for what one high profile individual claimed went on and trumpeted from his position at ESPN. The accuracy of those claims has certainly become suspect at a minimum, appearing to be nothing more than a grudge.
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Old Thu Apr 04, 2013, 02:01pm
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And what exactly is funny about it to you? I wonder if it was funny to Neil Reed's parents. Personally, I find choking to be worse than throwing a ball at a kid.
Considering he didn't actually choke the kid, I find it funny people think he did.
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Old Thu Apr 04, 2013, 02:38pm
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Considering he didn't actually choke the kid, I find it funny people think he did.
What an odd statement.
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Old Thu Apr 04, 2013, 02:44pm
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Considering he didn't actually choke the kid, I find it funny people think he did.
Anyone who thinks that the tape of Knight is even comparable, let alone worse, than the tape on Rice.......I just don't know what to say.

Amazing how people can see the same things yet have such different views.
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Old Thu Apr 04, 2013, 02:52pm
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I wonder if there are any openings for a Dodge Ball coach. Rice appears qualified.
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Old Thu Apr 04, 2013, 03:26pm
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So Rice might work again, but I doubt he will seriously work at a college job for some time.
100% will coach again.

If he is out all of next season I will be shocked. At the very least a D2 or lower level college will pick him up, but I would not be surprised to see him at a D1 school.
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Old Thu Apr 04, 2013, 03:34pm
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100% will coach again.

If he is out all of next season I will be shocked. At the very least a D2 or lower level college will pick him up, but I would not be surprised to see him at a D1 school.
Then why have the other two examples never worked in college pretty much since there incidents? What Rice did is by far worse.

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Old Thu Apr 04, 2013, 03:34pm
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Coaches at every level in IN thought that running up and down the sidelines and yelling at players and officials was how Knight coached.
It was.

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They never saw the part about teaching and the fact that he was more sarcastic then mean was lost on a lot of people.
Having a high graduation rate, caring about the players, and whatever other good things you do doesn't excuse bad behavior though.

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As for the video tape and the alleged choking, I have to laugh every time I see it.
Completely off topic to Rice.
He put his hands on one of his players —*grabbing him by the throat.

Seems completely on topic, regardless of whether or not you find the video amusing.
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Old Thu Apr 04, 2013, 03:36pm
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Then why have the other two examples never worked in college pretty much since there incidents? What Rice did is by far worse.

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Has there been any speculation about substance abuse? Something seems off with this guy in interviews etc. like a chipmunk on pixie stix
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Old Thu Apr 04, 2013, 03:37pm
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Anyone who thinks that the tape of Knight is even comparable, let alone worse, than the tape on Rice.......I just don't know what to say.
It's comparable because he's getting physical with his players. The player is walking down the court and he puts his hands on him enough where it shoves the player's head back.

Is it worse? Not even close.

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Amazing how people can see the same things yet have such different views.
This is so completely true and relevant to officiating!! Usually four views of what is happening on the court at any time: Home coach, Visiting coach, Official, and what really happened!
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Old Thu Apr 04, 2013, 03:39pm
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I wonder if there are any openings for a Dodge Ball coach. Rice appears qualified.
LOL ... Good idea. He should consider changing his last name to O'Doyle.
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Old Thu Apr 04, 2013, 03:40pm
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Then why have the other two examples never worked in college pretty much since there incidents? What Rice did is by far worse.
Who knows? Will see what happens ... you could be right and maybe he will never coach again.
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Old Thu Apr 04, 2013, 03:41pm
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The biggest tragedy of this entire thing is the number of athletes —*even high school — that I saw tweeting and commenting about Rice's behavior saying that it wasn't a big deal or wasn't so bad.
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Old Thu Apr 04, 2013, 03:50pm
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It was.



Having a high graduation rate, caring about the players, and whatever other good things you do doesn't excuse bad behavior though.



He put his hands on one of his players —*grabbing him by the throat.

Seems completely on topic, regardless of whether or not you find the video amusing.
Didn't grab him by the throat. Put his hand on his chest and moved him backwards. Watch the video tape again. They were practicing against a 1/2 court trap and the player got in front of the ball. A big No No. Knight walked up too him put his hand on his chest and moved him back to proper position.
Look, coaches put their hands on players. It's nearly impossible not to. What Rice did was unacceptable. What Knight did was common.
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