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Old Wed Apr 03, 2013, 12:52pm
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Old Wed Apr 03, 2013, 01:23pm
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That foul was a 'pick 'em' between 32 and 42. I still would have liked to see some more hustle from the C because she had an absolutely horrible look at it. If she would have kept hustling thru the play she would have been in a much better spot to see the play. IMO, this is why the L double clutches because it was so obvious there was a foul he just reflexively thought C had a whistle.

Yep. Let the 6'8 player who leads the world in blocked shots NOT be in the paint preventing this exact type of play!
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Old Thu Apr 04, 2013, 11:23am
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That foul was a 'pick 'em' between 32 and 42. I still would have liked to see some more hustle from the C because she had an absolutely horrible look at it. If she would have kept hustling thru the play she would have been in a much better spot to see the play. IMO, this is why the L double clutches because it was so obvious there was a foul he just reflexively thought C had a whistle.

Yep. Let the 6'8 player who leads the world in blocked shots NOT be in the paint preventing this exact type of play!
There is no reason for the Lead to double clutch at all. The lead is in great position, pitching the paint, and it is an obvious foul...go get it...if we have a double whistle that is even better. Do you think the Center was gun shy after making the offensive, pass and crash, call 10 seconds earlier?
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Old Thu Apr 04, 2013, 11:25am
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That foul was a 'pick 'em' between 32 and 42. I still would have liked to see some more hustle from the C because she had an absolutely horrible look at it. If she would have kept hustling thru the play she would have been in a much better spot to see the play. IMO, this is why the L double clutches because it was so obvious there was a foul he just reflexively thought C had a whistle.

Yep. Let the 6'8 player who leads the world in blocked shots NOT be in the paint preventing this exact type of play!
The center official is below the free throw line when the foul happens...where do you want her to be? Does she get blocked out, straight lined, by Griner? Thoughts.
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Old Thu Apr 04, 2013, 12:11pm
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Is there a difference between pinching the paint and pitching the paint?
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Old Thu Apr 04, 2013, 12:18pm
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The center official is below the free throw line when the foul happens...where do you want her to be? Does she get blocked out, straight lined, by Griner? Thoughts.
Minor point, but she was not below the FT line extended. She had pulled up and walked into position just above the FT and had moved to a position that was at best even with FT.

Regardless, she was completely blocked out as she had two defenders between her and the UL shooter. It would have been a complete guess on her part.

But her view of the previous B/C play was worse and she put a whistle on that
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Old Thu Apr 04, 2013, 12:36pm
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The center official is below the free throw line when the foul happens...where do you want her to be? Does she get blocked out, straight lined, by Griner? Thoughts.
You might want to re watch the video. The C never breaks the FT line extended, even after the whistle.

EDIT. ICall beat me to it
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Old Wed Apr 03, 2013, 01:23pm
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Poor defensive strategy aside, is there really that much illegal contact here?

First defender jumps vertically, swings wildly and misses, Griner blocks the shot up top and there is some marginal contact from behind. Not saying I wouldn't have called a foul there in real time, but on replay the contact isn't that great and was embellished by the shooter. The shooter's knee buckling when she took off made this play look like she got mugged when she didn't.
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Old Wed Apr 03, 2013, 01:34pm
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poor defensive strategy aside, is there really that much illegal contact here?

First defender jumps vertically, swings wildly and misses, griner blocks the shot up top and there is some marginal contact from behind. Not saying i wouldn't have called a foul there in real time, but on replay the contact isn't that great and was embellished by the shooter. The shooter's knee buckling when she took off made this play look like she got mugged when she didn't.
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Old Wed Apr 03, 2013, 01:37pm
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Looks like B32 is jumping into the shooter and contacts her with her hip. Griner hits her in the back and head with her right arm.
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Old Wed Apr 03, 2013, 01:58pm
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I don't know if the L was necessarily waiting on the C or not. It looks to me like he double clutches because he was initially going to call the ball out of bounds and give it to Louisville. He then changes his mind and goes with the foul. I could be wrong, just a thought.
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Old Thu Apr 04, 2013, 12:09pm
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I don't know if the L was necessarily waiting on the C or not. It looks to me like he double clutches because he was initially going to call the ball out of bounds and give it to Louisville. He then changes his mind and goes with the foul. I could be wrong, just a thought.
That's how I see it too. I think the double clutch is from going up with a hand and then changing it to a fist.

In the L's defense, I kinda agree with the previous post about it looking like much more illegal contact than it actually was.

But Griner did get her from behind, it was a foul, and you would like to see stronger mechanics in that situation.
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Old Sat Apr 06, 2013, 09:17pm
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Poor defensive strategy aside, is there really that much illegal contact here?

First defender jumps vertically, swings wildly and misses, Griner blocks the shot up top and there is some marginal contact from behind. Not saying I wouldn't have called a foul there in real time, but on replay the contact isn't that great and was embellished by the shooter. The shooter's knee buckling when she took off made this play look like she got mugged when she didn't.
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Old Tue Jul 02, 2013, 11:13am
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aftermath:

NCAA suspends Baylor coach Kim Mulkey for one tournament game - CBSSports.com

Additionally, Bill Self and Marshall Henderson receive some discipline:

NCAA hands out reprimands to Bill Self, Marshall Henderson - CBSSports.com
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Had Baylor not lost that game I wonder if the NCAA would've taken action before the regional final?
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