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Old Wed Apr 03, 2013, 12:08am
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I think those asserting this was a bad call are protesting a bit too much. It wasn't a bad call. May not have been the best call for that particular situation, but a bad call requires a call for a rule infraction that didn't occur. Sorry, but the elements of a player control foul appear to have occurred here.
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Old Wed Apr 03, 2013, 01:16am
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I've watched this video and the ESPN highlights about 20 times now. I still can't understand what made the Baylor player fall down.
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Old Wed Apr 03, 2013, 11:58am
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I've watched this video and the ESPN highlights about 20 times now. I still can't understand what made the Baylor player fall down.
I think upon feeling the contact with the defensive player she decided to pass back behind her and was off-balance when she came back down after twisting her body to make the pass.
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Old Wed Apr 03, 2013, 10:51am
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I think those asserting this was a bad call are protesting a bit too much. It wasn't a bad call. May not have been the best call for that particular situation, but a bad call requires a call for a rule infraction that didn't occur. Sorry, but the elements of a player control foul appear to have occurred here.
Are you kidding? The UL player flopped. The PC foul that was called was total garbage, especially in the context of other contact during the game.

What elements exist? The NCAA uses To and Through terminology to evaluate B/C plays, and for there to be a PC foul there needs to be one player going through another player's space. This clearly did not happen on this play.
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Old Wed Apr 03, 2013, 11:41am
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The NCAA uses To and Through terminology to evaluate B/C plays,.
I recall that in the pre-season video they specifically said that it didn't need to be "through" to have a PC foul. Maybe I'm misremembering.

(and, to be clear, I am making no comment here on the call / play specifically)
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Old Wed Apr 03, 2013, 01:18pm
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I recall that in the pre-season video they specifically said that it didn't need to be "through" to have a PC foul. Maybe I'm misremembering.

(and, to be clear, I am making no comment here on the call / play specifically)
The preseason video said it doesn't just have to be squarely in the chest. If A1 tries to go around B1 and still hits him in the shoulder we should still have a PC.
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Old Wed Apr 03, 2013, 02:11pm
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The preseason video said it doesn't just have to be squarely in the chest. If A1 tries to go around B1 and still hits him in the shoulder we should still have a PC.
Men's or Women's? That might make a difference here.

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Old Wed Apr 03, 2013, 02:14pm
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Men's or Women's? That might make a difference here.

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Men's....but this play was a straight up flop.
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Old Wed Apr 03, 2013, 02:19pm
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Men's....but this play was a straight up flop.
I agree that this was a flop, but just saying things in the pre-season video is often different based on the gender we are discussing.

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