What it takes to get a technical foul (coaches perception)
 

From a news article:

Arizona Coach Miller said he didn’t swear and didn’t get an on-court explanation for the technical.

“If I cuss and I’m out of control and I’ve been warned, shame on me,” Miller said after the game.

That's about what it takes to get a T at the NCAA level these days.

Be out of control, cuss and then ignore your warning. Or get a $5,000 incentive. :-)

another article National reaction to the story of Ed Rush ‘targeting’ Arizona coach Sean Miller - AG's Wildcat Report from AZ, it is a bunch of snipetts nationally.

Evidently, ripping of your jacket showing your spaghetti top, running around like your on stage looking for a pole doesn't warrant one.

Greenberg is going nutso over this. His reaction is somewhat humorous considering he represents a group of media folks that think they know what they are talking about when it comes to rules and officiating.

So, to read words lambasting Rush are hollow to some extent.

I will admit, what Rush said behind closed doors was foolish at best.

Huh?
 

I'm curious as to who this is supposed to be. It sounds like it would be more interesting if it were a female coach.

Do you mean Geno? LOL

Kim Mulkey.

Baylor girls' coach did this in the Louisville game Sunday after the pc call with 16.9 seconds left. No T.

Thanks. Read about it and heard it but didn't see it.

My 13 year old daughter doesn't throw fits like that. My 7 year old son does, however.

I can identify.

Most HS coaches would be surprised if they read 10-4-1 which specifies that an unsporting foul inlcludes, but is not limited to:

a. Disrespectfully addressing an official.
b. Attepting to influenece an official's decision
c. Using profane or inapproprate language or obscence gestures
d. Disrespectfully addressing, baiting or taunting an opponent.
e. Objecting to an official's decision by rising from the bench or using gestures
f. inciting undesirable crowd reactions
g. being charged with fighting
h. Removing the jersey and or pants/skirt within the visual confines of the playing arda
i. grasping either basket (not likley from a coach)

I suggest that given those definitions coaches should be assessed with technical's with much greater frequency then they are presently.

Coaches are under the impression that only c or maybe h will earn them that technical foul. The bar is set much lower if you consider a, b and e.

And it appears Miller committed all 3 on some level.

Peace

But, we don't give technicals for these behaviors. While the list permits us to give technicals for a lot of things, it isn't expected that we call technicals for these behaviors.

Hopefully he doesn't wear spaghetti strap tops...:eek:

We don't?

It isn't expected by whom?

For example, I don't know of any official who gives a technical when a coach tries to influence a call.

I don't think giving a technical foul under those circumstances would be expected by the official's partner, the coach, or the fans.

If it's prolonged, I will. That's what's expected.
If it's repetitious, I will. That's what's expected.
Either of these will generally get a warning.

If it's once or twice a quarter ("That's a travel"), I don't generally pay attention.

Good to know that these adults think that there need to be 3 qualifiers

Cursing
Being out of control
and already have been warned

Giving an exaggerated travelling signal after being warned about behavior?

Repeatedly slapping his own arm when he wants a foul call?

That would get a T ever in your games?

The exaggerated travelling signal after a warning earns a T.

Slapping his own arm deserves a warning...to be followed by a T if it is repeated.

But, I'm not giving a T the first time a coach yells "Three seconds" or even "over-the-back":rolleyes: Even though I know the coach is trying to influence the calls, I'm not giving him a T, even if there is a rule against it.

Speaking of coaches behavior...
 

If this is the kind of behavior that is tolerated by AD's, then no wonder some coaches act the way they do. By tolerate, I mean not fire. Clearly the AD feels he punished but anything less than firing shows a level of tolerance IMO.

OTL: Rutgers' Rice Berates Players at Practice - YouTube

Sorry cant embed from my phone.

Sounds like common sense to me. And nothing that will get much of an argument here...but you do realize that you are contradicting what you said before, right? You said you would not T for these things, but now you say you will T for these things...

Thanks - I wasn't clear. I meant to say is that I wouldn't give a T the first time it happens. Once it became a nuissance, I would give a warning and then a T if it continued.

My point was that I think the rule book gives me too much leeway on what to tolerate. At the scholastic level, we wouldn't be expected to pass up a double dribble call the first time it happens, but we would be expected to pass on giving a T to a coach the first time they try to influence a call.

There are other rules you're expected to use some discretion on.

10 seconds for free throw shooter.
3 seconds in the lane.
Those are universal.
Others that are regional/local: carrying with no pressure and no advantage, girls' heels over the lane line on free throws, the quick huddle with the FT shooter between FTs. There are others, I'm sure.