Originally Posted by Bad Zebra (Post 888735)

did you just post this nonsense to see the reaction?

Originally Posted by zebraman

You are kidding right?

Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 888595)

Fellas - the facts are simple:

- Ed Rush, in a meeting on Thr. of the conference tournament, told game officials he would pay $5,000 or give them a trip to Cancun to anyone who "rang him up" or "ran him".
- Ed Rush said the same thing in a meeting the next day, Friday.
- On Friday, one official (who was present in BOTH meetings) assessed a T to the very same coach (AFTER an incorrect call went against Arizona).
- Per a PAC-12 official, the game official who assessed the T doesn't normally give people a T (in fact he worked only 11 games this yr w/ a T; which ranks him tied for 144th nationally).
- The ONLY T that Miller got during the year was in this game.

When you think about it, here's where it gets even more suspicious.

During conference tournaments, aren't players and coaches even more emotional than during the regular season? The officials that are selected to work these games not only get plays right, but more importantly, have the ability to manage players/coaches during incredibly tense situations.

During the BCS conference tournaments this year (PAC 12, Big 12, Big 10, SEC, ACC, & Big East), do you know how many times a coach was assessed a T?.....

TWICE: Arizona's Miller and UCLA's Howland (vs Oregon in the Champ. Game).

During the 68 total tournament games played, some of the most volatile and boisterous coaches in America weren't penalized...yet a guy who had not received 1 T all season gets one AFTER the Supervisor specifically targets him in a meeting - not once but TWICE?

You're right....it WAS a joke after all.

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 888855)

I don't think he should be fired, but I'll be surprised if he isn't. I also think the idiot who leaked the joke should be let go by the conference. This isn't whistle blowing, it's spite.

Originally Posted by zm1283 (Post 888853)

These are exactly my thoughts. Rush should be fired by the conference. We already aren't trusted by the public in general, and this just makes it worse. And like JRut, you can talk all day about how you "Don't care what the public thinks", but in this situation, it does matter.

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 888819)

Brad, you cut me so deep.

Originally Posted by Brad (Post 888869)

You made your bed, you lie in it!

I was seriously surprised that ANYONE had more than JRut!!

Originally Posted by TheOracle (Post 888863)

One guy quit before the tournament who worked the last 9 consecutive championship games. Two former Final Four officials opted to work smaller conference tournament games rather than the Pac-12. You cannot have that much internal strife with that many accomplished veterans without very serious problems with the entire organization.

Originally Posted by TheOracle (Post 888863)

Larry Scott thought the organization was sick/weak, and brought in Rush to fix it. Rush made it worse, whether these comments came out or not. Bad hire that needs to be rectified regardless.

Originally Posted by Brad (Post 888876)

You must not have been around college basketball officiating very much. There is ALWAYS that much strife with a change in coordinators. New coordinator means changes, different game assignments, some get less, some get more ... and some get disgruntled.

Same thing has happened over and over in different leagues as new coordinators have taken over in the last 5 years. Completely standard.



I don't know that your assessment of why Rush was brought in is all to on target either. Seems like you are just conjecturing ... unless you have some kind of insider info.

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 888873)

Not sure why, I just passed JR in number recently. And Snaq, I mean Adam passed me some time ago. You obviously have not been coming to this site very often. :D

Originally Posted by Brad (Post 888901)

You're not sure why, but your instincts are pretty spot on! :)

Been busy working ... and for the past two years that hasn't included officiating, so I only show up to stir things up and start the occasional duplicate thread!

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 888880)

Just look at what happened in the BIG a few years ago. The entire staff looks very different than it did when the previous guy was in that position. And all I heard for 2 years is officials complaining about the staff and who got left off the staff by fellow officials.

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 888903)

I know why I passed JR, but not sure why you thought I was at the top. It took me some time to pass other guys that are still with us. ;)

Originally Posted by Brad (Post 888904)

Assume you are talking about the Big 12? Hard to decipher when using "the BIG" and "previous guy" :)

It is ALWAYS that way when a new coordinator takes over ... When Kelley took over the Metro there was a guy that worked the tournament championship the year before that received ZERO games the next year!!

When a new coordinator comes in everything changes — with the exception of bitching and moaning ... that never changes.