Duke-Louisville foul no continuation clip (Dieng/Plumlee 2nd half)

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Adam

Foul at 9:12, shot waved off. I think it's the right call.

[JugglingReferee]

Travel first.

Bump by B was after the gather. Count it.

[Camron Rust]

Travel at the start.

At the time of the foul, it was not clear where he was trying to go with it. He was moving away from the basket and wasn't yet turning towards it. It was close and I could go either way on that one.

[twocentsworth]

This is a classic example of the offensive team being penalized by not having the shot count/free throws awarded.

The offensive player gather the ball that preceding his normal shooting motion prior to being fouled.

I have a feeling this play will be in next years' Pre-Season Officiation Video as an example of incorrectly canceling a shot.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

This is a classic example of the offensive team being penalized by not having the shot count/free throws awarded.

The offensive player gather the ball that preceding his normal shooting motion prior to being fouled.

I have a feeling this play will be in next years' Pre-Season Officiation Video as an example of incorrectly canceling a shot.

Once again... gather does not equal shooting. It might, usually when going towards the basket, but it isn't automatic. In this case, he was going away from the basket.

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Once again... gather does not equal shooting. It might, usually when going towards the basket, but it isn't automatic. In this case, he was going away from the basket.

What caused him to change the direction in which he was moving? (Answer: the foul by the defender).

Once the offensive player starts his habitual shooting motion, nowhere in the rule does it specify a direction or location on the court that the offensive player must be in to be considered "in the act of shooting" (see the 3 shots awarded the Charlotte player vs Richmond during the A10 Conference Tournament).

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Once again... gather does not equal shooting. It might, usually when going towards the basket, but it isn't automatic. In this case, he was going away from the basket.

It actually starts before the gather, but then again I would have awarded shots.

Peace

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

The offensive player gather the ball that preceding his normal shooting motion prior to being fouled.

So he was fouled during the gather, which precedes the normal shooting motion. Which means he hadn't started his normal shooting motion, which means no shot.

Full disclosure. I haven't watched the clip yet. Work, no access to videos.

[JRutledge]

I clearly have a shooting foul.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Travel at the start.

At the time of the foul, it was not clear where he was trying to go with it. He was moving away from the basket and wasn't yet turning towards it. It was close and I could go either way on that one.

Watching it live, I wasn't even sure if he'd gathered it yet. After watching it again, I agree with you. He may have gathered, but it wasn't clear what he was doing.

I probably would have counted it, but I can understand either way.