Duke-Louisville blocking clip (Hairston 1st half)
 

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What did B1 do wrong? Did he stand there incorrectly?

Not a block.

And were the lead and "C" exchanging post game plans? They could have nearly touched each other. Looks like the someone missed the rotation (not that it would have improved the call had they not missed the rotation).

L was in rotation at start of clip. C was ref'ing backwards and had no awareness the L had begun a rotation.

The C would have had to be in rotation immediately as the L started to cross the lane for them not to be that close.

Other than that, the defender did a slight position adjustment to his right. The defender is allowed to move laterally and back once LGP is established, contact was still torso to torso, the offense was in the least advantageous position prior to contact. I would have a hard time calling anything but a PC.

PS. Where are all those travel guys on this play? :)

A few seconds AFTER this video, CBS showed a replay from the camera located above the basket and CLEARLY showed Hairston illegally moving to his right prior to/during the contact.

This was correctly called.

Keep in mind that each call/judgement an official makes is predicated on his view/his positioning. Doug Shows had a different and much better view of this play (as confirmed by the replay angle from above the basket). The view that an official has is the difference between getting the call correct and getting it wrong.

All fine and good except that nothing about moving right is illegal or makes the defender's position illegal (the shooter was still on the floor up to the point of contact).

Incorrect call.

A player that has LGP can move left, right or back, not forward. The defender is not required to remain planted.

You are absolutely correct.

Except for the part about the Duke defender having LGP prior to the UL player leaving the ground to shoot.

Are you watching the same clip? He didn't leave the floor to shoot until after he knocked the defender down.

.02worth is in peso's. ;)

The other thing about this particular play is when the UL player pushes off the right leg there is no possible way for him to make contact by going into the defense. As soon as UL puts left foot on the floor again, he changes direction and goes into the defender, UL initiates contact that is not otherwise possible.

I cannot see how this is a block at all. The defender hardly moved.

Peace

Charge

Charge.
 

Now, put this same play in a thousand high school gyms across the country. Boys, girls, rural, city. Exact same play.

What percentage of high school officials call this a block?

I would say at LEAST 75%. At least.

1. Doubt it. He'd been in LGP since Tuesday.
2. It's really hard to use this clip to denigrate high school refs when it was missed by an Elite 8 level NCAA official.

I'm not looking to denigrate.
 

... to criticize unfairly.

Just a matter of fact from my observation. Offensive player begins shooting motion, defender 'moves', contact occurs... block.

I see a lot of blocks called on plays that are obviously charges at the high school level. And the justifications for them are often not rules based. I have heard everything from "He leaned back too soon" or "He was not set..." and they call a block. And all officials will occasionally miss these calls, but it is really not as hard a call as many of us make it out to be. I think NCAA doe a better job calling charges to the point the media is complaining about how many charges are called.

Peace

Media
 

About a week ago, in transition, defender sets up. Planted. Straight up. Offensive player straight into him. 100% charge.

TV commentator, "I think there should be more leeway given to the offensive player in transition on plays like that" :eek:

If you are insisting that moving is somehow illegal, you damage your believability....or are you saying that is how some HS officials call it (but not you...i now see that it was someone else who earlier suggested that moving was illegal)????

the latter..
 

that is how I see this play called (and explained).
Which, of course, produces a cycle of the players, coaches, and fans 'learning' that this is a block.

Are you suggesting that all movement to the left or right by a defender is legal?

He does not have to say all, but the rules allow movement left and right of a player that has obtained LGP.

Peace

Your sweeping assessment (75%) is certainly unfair given you judged officials across the country rather than isolating it to your area.

If the opponent is on the floor, has the ball, and the defender previously obtained LGP, yes.

I agree with this. If LGP has been established, the defense may move left or right, prior to the offensive player being in the air.