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Old Sun Mar 31, 2013, 10:31pm
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Let's maybe discuss the GT call at 13:59, first half.
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Old Sun Mar 31, 2013, 10:36pm
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Very close but it just started its downward flight.
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Old Sun Mar 31, 2013, 10:53pm
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Close, but looks like its on the downward flight.
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Old Sun Mar 31, 2013, 11:42pm
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From most angles, it looks like GT. However, from the view through the glass, I think it is pretty clear that it is still going up. And that is about as good of a view as you could wish for. It has several very close reference points at it was continuing to rise relative to all of them both before and after the block.
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From most angles, it looks like GT. However, from the view through the glass, I think it is pretty clear that it is still going up. And that is about as good of a view as you could wish for. It has several very close reference points at it was continuing to rise relative to all of them both before and after the block.
#1: We don't officiate from behind the backboard

#2: That angle has a distorted view so I'm not trusting anything I see from that camera shot.

But I don't see why we have a thread for this. It was a judgment call by an official about 20ft away and 5ft below the ball. To me it's one of the hardest calls to make accurately. There is nothing anybody is going to post in this thread that will say what the official could have or should have done differently.
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#1: We don't officiate from behind the backboard

#2: That angle has a distorted view so I'm not trusted anything I see from that camera shot.

But I don't see why we have a thread for this. It was a judgment call by an official about 20ft away and 5ft below the ball. To me it's one of the hardest calls to make accurately. There is nothing anybody is going to post in this thread that will say what the official could have or should have done differently.
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#1: We don't officiate from behind the backboard

#2: That angle has a distorted view so I'm not trusting anything I see from that camera shot.

But I don't see why we have a thread for this. It was a judgment call by an official about 20ft away and 5ft below the ball. To me it's one of the hardest calls to make accurately. There is nothing anybody is going to post in this thread that will say what the official could have or should have done differently.
The question was whether the ball was going up or not. If it is still going up, it doesn't really matter where we officiate from. That just means we don't have the best view of the play to get it right. That ball was still going up. ICC.

From the view of that camera, it would appear to be going down just before it really reached its peak as the camera was aimed downward. Any d\distortion it may have had would have would only make it appear to not be GT. It wouldn't make it appear to GT when it wan't..
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"appear to be going down just before it really reached its peak" Um.... what? New definition of "peak?"
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I think it's a good block. I think what distorts the look is the fact that the ball goes up after the block, which is the exception and not the rule.
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"Appear to be going down just before it really reached its peak". New definition of "peak?"
No. Just an anomaly in the space time continuum. Happens all the time.
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No. Just an anomaly in the space time continuum. Happens all the time.
I thought it only happened in the NFHS backcourt interpretations.
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Agree with the judgement call (don't think it was a "no-brainer")...especially early in the game; set the boundaries of what IS and IS NOT acceptable.
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"appear to be going down just before it really reached its peak" Um.... what? New definition of "peak?"
Relative to the tilt of the camera. I thought I made that clear, but apparently not.

The camera was tilted downward. There is a small window of time where the ball will still be going up while it may, from the view of that camera, appear to have peaked or even going downward if viewed in isolation. But, that is strictly due to the tilt of the camera. Camera "level" is not necessarily "level".

The perfect camera level would be one exactly even with the ball at the time it was hit and with no tilt. Not having that, you take what you have and account for the angles.
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