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AremRed Sat Mar 30, 2013 05:14am

Michigan v. Kansas
 
There was <del>a held ball</del> travelling called at <del>some point (can't recall the time)</del> 8:25 of the 2nd half, where a Michigan player had the ball in the paint and went up for a shot. The L called <del>a held ball</del> travelling at the same time the C was signalling a tip (or loose ball). Looked like the L was straight-lined. Did anyone see this?

And, 5 seconds left in overtime -- does Kansas 15 travel before he kicks the ball out?

JetMetFan Sat Mar 30, 2013 05:46am

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Originally Posted by seanwestref (Post 887687)
There was a held ball called at some point (can't recall the time), where a Michigan player had the ball in the paint and went up for a shot. The L called a held ball at the same time the C was signalling a tip (or loose ball). Looked like the L was straight-lined. Did anyone see this?

I hope someone did, otherwise I can't get it :rolleyes:

AremRed Sat Mar 30, 2013 05:51am

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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 887688)
I hope someone did, otherwise I can't get it :rolleyes:

Unfortunately the box score play-by-play does not list plays like this. I'm sure someone will remember!

Edit: Wait, the NCAA box score has an entry: Turnover, Mitch McGary (travelling), 8:25 2nd half

Edit2: That is the play I am talking about. Travelling, not a held ball.

Jay R Sat Mar 30, 2013 07:44am

Late in the overtime, the talking heads were making a big deal about stopping play to check the time when neither team had a time out left. I can why the officials want to check and not be criticized later. Having said that, Michigan got the ball with 45.0 seconds left in the game. A shot clock violation occurred, do you really need to check the monitor? In the NBA, the officials would have told the operator to put 10.0 seconds on the clock, it would have taken 2 seconds to do so.

APG Sat Mar 30, 2013 07:48am

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Originally Posted by Jay R (Post 887694)
Late in the overtime, the talking heads were making a big deal about stopping play to check the time when neither team had a time out left. I can why the officials want to check and not be criticized later. Having said that, Michigan got the ball with 45.0 seconds left in the game. A shot clock violation occurred, do you really need to check the monitor? In the NBA, the officials would have told the operator to put 10.0 seconds on the clock, it would have taken 2 seconds to do so.

The NBA rule regarding timing and the shot clock is different then college. NBA doesn't allow a team to use waste more than 24 seconds if they commit a shot clock violation...even if when the whistle is blown, more than 24 have elapsed. You'll see officials correct this throughout a game if applicable. Then again, if NCAA would spring the money for PTS, no need for this.

bob jenkins Sat Mar 30, 2013 08:39am

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Originally Posted by Jay R (Post 887694)
Late in the overtime, the talking heads were making a big deal about stopping play to check the time when neither team had a time out left. I can why the officials want to check and not be criticized later. Having said that, Michigan got the ball with 45.0 seconds left in the game. A shot clock violation occurred, do you really need to check the monitor? In the NBA, the officials would have told the operator to put 10.0 seconds on the clock, it would have taken 2 seconds to do so.

The shot must be released before the clock expires, but it's not a violation until the ball doesn't hit the rim. So, the actual time elapsed could be more than 35 seconds. Here, 35.6 seconds, apparently.

Now, if the shot wasn't off in time, then you'd be right - just reset the clock.


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