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JetMetFan Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:32am

Arizona-Ohio State clips
 
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zebraman Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:36am

Play 1. I don't see a foul, but if he called a handcheck, it looks like he called it when the player was in the foul circle so a baseline throw-in would be the proper spot.

Play 2. Some contact. I don't find it unreasonable.

Play 3. Close play, but it doesn't look like the defender prevented the release of the shot so probably incorrect. Good sell though. :D

JRutledge Fri Mar 29, 2013 01:26pm

1. Not sure why the ball was put on the end line. Contact if any took place clearly outside the arc.

2. The contact was what has been called, "absolute." Not only did Craft (OSU player) put his arms on the dribbler but then makes the ball handler lose the ball. I have a foul there.

3. This was really close, but it follows the rule for a held ball. He prevents the shooter from shooting the ball and the shooter comes down to the floor with the ball. I think that is a good call per NCAA rules which requires the shooter to come back to the floor. In HS I would have this a held ball long before because the shooter never lost control of the ball at the top.

Peace

Raymond Fri Mar 29, 2013 01:32pm

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Originally Posted by zebraman (Post 887546)
Play 1. I don't see a foul, but if he called a handcheck, it looks like he called it when the player was in the foul circle so a baseline throw-in would be the proper spot.

Play 2. Some contact. I don't find it unreasonable.

Play 3. Close play, but it doesn't look like the defender prevented the release of the shot so probably incorrect. Good sell though. :D

#1: A1 is still outside the 3-point line when the whistle and fist occur. Just an horrendously handled play all the way around, IMO.

#2: After the call in Play 1, a whistle should definitely have come earlier on this play.

#3: As I said in the original thread, this is the expected call. Corbett is not going to get dinged for that call, I guarantee you. A1 went up to shoot, B1 got hand on the ball, A1 returned to the floor with the ball. If anyone says that technically this was a travel or a fumble per the rule book, I won't dispute you either way. I'm saying what call is expected on this type of play.

ballgame99 Fri Mar 29, 2013 01:45pm

What league does the T in play 2 typically work for? I haven't seen that guy all year, and now I'm seeing him all the time. I've nicknamed him the silver fox.

play 1 - looks like a wrong spot, but no one outside of this website probably noticed

play 2 - there were a couple fouls there (notice the air punch to the side by the silver fox before the actual foul)

play 3 - on that last above angle it looks like the defender knocked it loose and it could have been a play on, but it was a bang/bang play and I don't have a problem with the call.

Jay R Fri Mar 29, 2013 01:55pm

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Originally Posted by ballgame99 (Post 887582)
What league does the T in play 2 typically work for? I haven't seen that guy all year, and now I'm seeing him all the time. I've nicknamed him the silver fox.

play 1 - looks like a wrong spot, but no one outside of this website probably noticed

play 2 - there were a couple fouls there (notice the air punch to the side by the silver fox before the actual foul)

play 3 - on that last above angle it looks like the defender knocked it loose and it could have been a play on, but it was a bang/bang play and I don't have a problem with the call.

The Silver Fox is Brian O'Connell, long time Big East official

Bad Zebra Fri Mar 29, 2013 02:09pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 887581)
#3: ... If anyone says that technically this was a travel or a fumble per the rule book, I won't dispute you either way. I'm saying what call is expected on this type of play.

There was definitely something there. I can't fault him for grabbing it either way...a case can be made for either jump or travel.

What cracked me up though was the running gator chomp mechanic after the whistle...followed by index fingers to the sky...LOL

BillyMac Fri Mar 29, 2013 04:15pm

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