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[OKREF]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Well you know you are one of those people that seem to find a travel in everything, so why am I not surprised.

Peace

Nothing to go find. It was a travel. You seem to be one of those people who can't admit their wrong. Have a nice day.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Nothing to go find. It was a travel. You seem to be one of those people who can't admit their wrong. Have a nice day.

I did not expect you to get the joke. And it was not for your eyes anyway.

And if you were confident that it was a travel, you would have stuck with rulebook language to describe what happened. You and others did not do that, which tells me it was not "obvious." You guess and you got proof you wanted. Oh well, I hope you give a coach more information than what distance he traveled and it was not even accurate.

Peace

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by OKREF

I thought play one was a travel when I saw it live. In my humble opinion the replay confirms it for me. He picks the ball up with his left foot on the floor. steps with right, steps with left and doesn't shoot or pass before it hits again.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I did not expect you to get the joke. And it was not for your eyes anyway.

And if you were confident that it was a travel, you would have stuck with rulebook language to describe what happened. You and others did not do that, which tells me it was not "obvious." You guess and you got proof you wanted. Oh well, I hope you give a coach more information than what distance he traveled and it was not even accurate.

Peace

Once again read my first post in this thread. I never said anything about distance traveled at any time in this whole conversation. I did say he took to many steps, in a later post, but also said that was a bad choice of words.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by OKREF

I did say he took to many steps, in a later post, but also corrected it.

What is there to correct? He did take too many steps. This is in layman terms, yes, but is there a better explanation for what happened here?

no

[JetMetFan]

So...I didn't think posting a still picture would lead to this much discussion.

The reason I put it out there was to show everyone how truly close this was. How close? About 0.03 seconds later A1's left foot is off the floor.

It's easy enough to see why anyone could pass on this in real time because they either weren't sure or just couldn't see the left foot on the floor at the moment the dribble ended.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

So...I didn't think posting a still picture would lead to this much discussion.

The reason I put it out there was to show everyone how truly close this was. How close? About 0.03 seconds later A1's left foot is off the floor.

It's easy enough to see why anyone could pass on this in real time because they either weren't sure or just couldn't see the left foot on the floor at the moment the dribble ended.

Or they did not think he hand control at that point. There are other explanations for why things are called. And if it was so "obvious" then the folks would have described the play to great detail. But instead we get hyperbole of how far the move started, which was not true BTW.

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

But instead we get hyperbole of how far the move started, which was not true BTW.

Which part was not true?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Once again read my first post in this thread. I never said anything about distance traveled at any time in this whole conversation. I did say he took to many steps, in a later post, but also said that was a bad choice of words.

I was not just talking about you. But something that is obvious you can describe in some relative detail. You and others that are claiming this was "obvious" did not do that. And some of you even flip flopped on what you saw. And taking too many steps is not a violation and not in the rulebook. Lifting your pivot foot and putting it back down is illegal. That is why I asked early on, "Which foot was the pivot foot?"

Peace

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by OKREF

+1. The ball is in his right hand, dribble stopped, with his left foot on the floor.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I was not just talking about you. But something that is obvious you can describe in some relative detail. You and others that are claiming this was "obvious" did not do that. And some of you even flip flopped on what you saw. And taking too many steps is not a violation and not in the rulebook. Lifting your pivot foot and putting it back down is illegal. That is why I asked early on, "Which foot was the pivot foot?"

Peace

Pretty sure this answers which foot I had as the pivot. This was before the still was posted. If I am holding the ball and I take three steps without dribbling, shooting, or passing, it is a violation. Yes the technical term would be I picked up my pivot foot and returned it to the floor without releasing the ball for a pass, shot, or the start of the dribble.