Get rid of the "no tights" rule!
 

Since this is basically a farce and we are seeing so many players wearing tights now, let's just cease with the song and dance that they are "medical," which is BS and everyone knows it, and entirely get rid of the rule prohibiting the wearing of them at both the NCAA and NFHS levels.


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I agree, though there's no medical waiver for extended tights in NFHS. What they do now is make socks or knee pads so long they might as well be tights.

I can live with the extended tights in college but just make them the predominant color of the game shorts.

So Moved ...
 

I second the motion. All in favor?

(Many officials wear them. Why can't players?)

Possible ??? Probable ???
 

NFHS Basketball Rules Questionnaire
Have You Seen In Your Area?
1. Leg compression sleeves/calf sleeves becoming a problem.
6. More players being allowed to wear tights.

I hate when they make us the Uniform Sheriff on Nottingham. Does every player have identical uniforms? Yes. Any sharp or metal objects? No. Lets play.

On a side not Elena D will make me enjoy the WNBA......:cool:

Been There, Done That ...
 

I love when NFHS questionnaires use the phrase "becoming a problem," especially when it pertains to uniforms. What does that even mean?

We had one a couple years ago ask about multi-colored or two different colored socks. Like I care enough about the socks the kids are wearing to decide if it is "becoming a problem." I usually choose No simply because I don't want to add to the list of "you can't wear that."

Players can if they wear long pants like the officials.

Officials can't wear long sleeve undershirts, should we disallow it on the players?

I wear my wedding ring, should we allow players to do so?

Not for nothing, Nevada...but how do you know "for sure" that those are tights?

Should we allow players to wear your wedding ring? :confused:

If you mean should we allow players to wear their wedding rings, I don't think that would make much of a change in HS or MS games, except in some states. :D

I am likely in the minority, but if tights and sleeves are needed to play, then maybe the kid needs a couple more days to heal.

If the NFHS wants us to be the fashion police, they need to quit expanding the list of what is allowed. Otherwise just let it be the AAU free for all it has become.

My sentiments exactly. I have seen players lift these things and they were not tights, they were leg sleeves. I have addressed it with coaches and let them tell me what they are. Then I let them know, they might want to be prepared for when someone wants to see them to make sure they are not tights.

That being said I think the NF needs to stop trying to regulate every uniform issue. As long as they are not dangerous or get some advantage from the usage, why would they care? This was like 15 years ago when they told us not to have socks with logos on them and it was so dumb because kids pick their own socks. Kids buy these items, why do we care if they do not match perfectly to the uniform?

Peace

Of course they are not "needed" to play but neither are many other things that kids may choose to wear.

Why as an official do I care what kids are wearing as long as it's not dangerous and does not create a problem for me in distinguishing between teams?

I think the rule disallowing tights is antiquated and not really in the spirit of when the rule prohibiting things extending below the shorts was written.

And with all of the compression apparel out there now it's hard to tell exactly what are tights/sleeves/knee pads, etc. Count me in the camp that applauds any rule change that gives me one less thing to worry about in terms of playing fashion police.

The NCAA needs to get this one out of the rule books, too. Every year in February my assignor sends out a reminder to enforce the sock rule (i.e., make the kids roll them down if they have two logos on them) because the NCAAs are coming up and it's going to be taken care of during the tournament. Like two manufacturer's logos on each sock is really too much advertising?

As far as I'm concerned, they should just stipulate that all sleeves need to fit the same requirements as undershirts. Match the predominant uniform color. Short of that, make them match the color requirements of headbands and wristbands. A player wearing a blue jersey and white shooting sleeves creates just a slight advantage in traffic sometimes against a team in white.

Other than that, whether they're tights, socks, or separated sleeves, I'd rather not care.

Tights On Officials ...
 

All good points. I probably worded my post poorly. I was simply trying to point out that many officials wear tights for the same reason that many players would like to wear tights, to keep the muscles warm to maybe to lessen the chance of an injury.

We can wear long sleeve undershirts, but I doubt that we would move up our association's ladder wearing such an odd uniform. I've seen officials wearing long sleeve undershirts in recreation, or travel games, especially in some of the cold gymnasiums that we sometimes have to work in. Also, when I was married, I used to take my wedding ring off when I officiated. As an official, I'm not playing, but there are many occasions where a player, or my partner, is tossing a ball to me, and I don't need any jammed fingers, or swollen fingers with the wedding band acting as a tourniquet.

Yeah, That's The Way It Would Go ...
 

He doesn't, so he would simply ask her to lift up the bottom of her shorts, or ask her to pull down the top of her shorts, so that he can take a real close up look to see if they are really tights, or just sleeves. Maybe he'll take photos for proof? After Delle Donne's boyfriend, or father, or brother, or all three, come out of the stands to beat the crap out of Nevadaref, all of us can take up a collection to help Nevadaref post bail for his sexual voyeurism charge.

Not to theadjack, but...
 

I wore them religiously my first two years. Had a lot of calf/quad muscle problems. Switched to mid-thigh compression shorts, and haven't had any problems since. I think I was getting too hot.

I just noticed that you posted something similar in another thread in response to the questions I ask. Uh, nobody say to ask to see anything private. It they are sleeves, seeing the top of them is not a horrible thing like you make it out to be. If they are tights, take them off.

I do feel the same as others: I wouldn't be sad at all if we didn't have to look for this stuff. However, since we do (and my military career makes me somewhat of a rule follower) I look for it.

I wore calf sleeves...sometimes. They are great, but about the same amount as tights.

What he said.

Pants On Fire ...
 

It's called hyperbole, a word that I learned in Mr. Chieffo's eight grade English class.

I'm not asking to see anything more than I can see without the player, boy, or girl, moving any part of the shorts up, or down. If I think that they are tights, I'm simply asking, "Are those tights?". If the player says, "No, they're just sleeves.", then I'm believing him, or her. Once the coach tells us, in our pregame, that the players are legally equipped, then that's where it ends for me. It's now a done deal. Play on. However, when in Rome, check your local listings

Jump ??? How High ???
 

Thank you for putting yourself in harm's way in service to our country.

No military background for me, but I'm as much of a rule follower as anybody, which is why I would like the NFHS to allow tights, maybe with some color restrictions, which would not only make my job easier, but would allow me, as a rule follower, to sleep at night.

Rose Colored Glasses ...
 

Maybe it was this (below), and, like you, a lot of Forum members disagreed with me.

I'm not asking players to remove tape from their earlobes to check for earrings.

And, I'm not asking players to hitch up their shorts to check for tights.

Maybe I'm naive, or too trusting, but if a player, and his coach, tell me that they're legally equipped, then that's enough for me. I don't like accusing people of being liars, unless I have a pretty darn good reason to so so.

Again, when in Rome, check your local listings.

If they are wearing tape on their ears, I always ask.

It is normally pretty obvious what they are trying to do. If you let them wear jewelry whether it is under tape or not it is a disregard for safety rules...

Now depending on the jurisdiction, there are two different standards of liability. Allowing jewelry like this may or may not be grossly negligent but it probably meets ordinary negligence... I don't plan on finding out...


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I Thought That That Would Cover Everything ???
 

... not even with the express written consent of Major League Baseball?